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<h4>Linux</h4>
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<li>GNOME or KDE desktop
<p><i>Tested on Ubuntu® 14.04 LTS, Trusty Tahr (64-bit distribution capable of
running 32-bit applications)</i></p></li>
<li>64-bit distribution capable of running 32-bit applications</li>
<li>GNU C Library (glibc) 2.19 or later</li>
<li>3 GB RAM minimum, 8 GB RAM recommended; plus 1 GB for the Android Emulator
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<li>2 GB of available disk space minimum,<br>4 GB Recommended
(500 MB for IDE + 1.5 GB for
Android SDK and emulator system image)</li>
<li>1280 x 800 minimum screen resolution</li>
<li>For accelerated emulator: Intel® processor with support for Intel®
VT-x, Intel® EM64T (Intel® 64), and Execute Disable (XD) Bit functionality,
or AMD processor with support for AMD Virtualization™ (AMD-V™)</li>
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<h2 class="norule"></h2></div></section></div><div>On Thu, 2017-09-07 at 13:57 -0400, Neal Rhodes wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex; border-left:2px #729fcf solid;padding-left:1ex">
Well, I don't completely agree or disagree. <br>
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Note that I do have on my shelf Bell Labratories Unix Programmer's Manual, Circa 1979. I used to read cover-to-cover every few months. I do respect linux and its parents. <br>
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In this situation: <br>
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- Installation of Java JDK and Android Studio took 10 minutes of my time, following a youtube video, on an 4GB Quad-core Windows 10 notebook. (which, by the way, runs just fine on everything else. ) Studio fired up immediately, generated a Hello World application, and then obviously ground to a halt trying to run the emulator in 4GB. That Acer notebook requires surgery and about $80 to rip out the 4GB and replace with 8GB. <br>
- Installation of Java JDK and Android Studio took 2 hours of my time, attempted debug of all the Java errors and inconsistencies in libraries, and another 4 hours of attempted debug of running it. It never got through the Gradle execution to build the app. I am now stuck with a Centos 6.7 box which will take another undetermined amount of work to rebuild as Centos 7.x. (Which I really cannot do, as my wife is doing billable work on that same box now. ) And then who knows how many more hours of debug will be needed running Studio on Centos 7.x? <br>
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Note that the goal here is to learn Android Studio and build a simple sheet music playing app. I don't CARE what platform Studio is running on. There are no extra points for running it on Linux. <br>
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After a bit of pondering, what I'm thinking of doing is: <br>
A) revise my purchase of a refurb to make sure I've got room for 32GB RAM, and 2 drive bays, and maybe spend a little more for that. <br>
B) go ahead and use Win10 as is for Studio and learn it without extra drama.<br>
C) once learned, virtualize the Win10 install with whatever I used a couple years ago to virtualize an existing windows install. I'd have to remember what I bought, but it did a nice job of building a VirtualBox VM, which we then stuffed on a USB stick, and transferred to Centos. <br>
D) Then cram in more RAM, buy two new SATA drives, and install Centos <whatever-is-latest> with software-raid.<br>
E) Load Virtual Box, the Win10 VM, <br>
F) Attempt JDK and Studio install on native Centos, but bail and use the VM if it gives me any crap. <br>
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Yes, I'm sure there are purists that are horrified that someone would rationally chose a non-linux platform. Sorry, I'm a realist. As Clint often said, "A man HAS to know their own limitations". Too often if you get slightly off the beaten path with Linux you end up off in the tall weeds with no way back to the highway. <br>
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On Thu, 2017-09-07 at 12:26 -0400, Jim Kinney wrote:<br>
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A) that box will run linux just fine<br>
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B) Win10 on a machine of that capability is just shy of molasses ( in August, but molasses).<br>
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On September 7, 2017 11:45:02 AM EDT, Neal Rhodes <neal@mnopltd.com> wrote:<br>
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Thanks to all for the replies. That does sound like less grief. However, I noted to my regret that although we have a couple of Win8 VMs we could use, the HP Pavilion running Centos maxes out at 8GB RAM. Cannot add anymore. <br>
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Much as I prefer Linux, looks like I can buy a <b>HP 6305 Pro Desktop PC - AMD Athlon A4-5300B 3.4GHz 8gb 250gb DVD Windows 10 Professional (Certified Refurbished) </b>$122. <br>
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On Wed, 2017-09-06 at 16:34 -0400, DJ-Pfulio wrote:
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<pre>+1 for using VMs.
On 09/06/2017 03:55 PM, Michael Potter wrote:
> I do my mobile development in VMs for precisely this reason. The build tools
> change too quickly and likely to break other things on my machine. Operating
> system updates also break the build tools.
>
> I keep multiple VMs and then install all new tools on a new VM. Then migrate
> each app to the new VM as work needs to be done on it.
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> Then I can get a new host machine and simply copy the VMs to the new host and
> all certificates and build environments remain unchanged.
>
> Once all apps are migrated to the new VM I delete the older VM.
>
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