<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">IME, devs want root because company policies mean that it takes admins forever to grant necessary privileges, install needed accounts, etc.<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 9:18 AM, DJ-Pfulio <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:DJPfulio@jdpfu.com" target="_blank">DJPfulio@jdpfu.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Let me fix that for you ----<br>
<br>
"lazy devs always want root so their code will work."<br>
"lazy companies always want their servers running/installed with root too.<br>
<br>
We never wanted root. We never wanted logins. We didn't want to be<br>
blamed for anything bad system-wise that may happen. No root was a<br>
policy for our server code. Even during installations, no root was needed.<br>
<span class="im HOEnZb"><br>
On 05/16/2017 08:49 AM, Jim Kinney wrote:<br>
> Indeed. Devs always want root so their code will work. Bad dev!<br>
><br>
> On Tue, 2017-05-16 at 08:20 -0400, leam hall wrote:<br>
</span><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">>> On Tue, May 16, 2017 at 8:13 AM, DJ-Pfulio <<a href="mailto:DJPfulio@jdpfu.com">DJPfulio@jdpfu.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:DJPfulio@jdpfu.com">DJPfulio@jdpfu.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
>>> It is actually an anti-pattern to trust the system versions of these<br>
>>> tools, if you are a developer.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> It's an anti-pattern to trust developers, if you're a systems person. :)<br>
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