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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">I wound up in IT after an EE degree and
~3 years in software engineering.. But later on, A Former Employer
would *ignore* the only electrical engineer on staff, who told
them they were powering racked servers improperly and didn't
change their practices when a failed power supply in one server
knocked out most of the servers in an entire cabinet. <br>
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I left straight IT soon thereafter.<br>
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On 5/10/17 11:06 AM, Jim Kinney wrote:<br>
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<div dir="auto">Everything I've ever seen has said anyone can use
the term engineer as long as it's not used with or implied with
professional.
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<div dir="auto">Without the connotation of professional, it's
just another HR pigeonhole.</div>
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<div dir="auto">With professional it's a legally binding thing
that equates a government certified and validated set of
skills.</div>
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<div dir="auto">A person with a PhD is not a certified Doctor.</div>
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<div dir="auto">Until there is a statewide/nationwide exam for
sysadmins, it's going to continue to be marketing hype (rhce
is a good assessment of skills - not slamming it or cisco.
M$cse is far lesser)</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On May 10, 2017 10:37 AM, "Jerald
Sheets" <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:questy@gmail.com">questy@gmail.com</a>>
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> On May 9, 2017, at 8:09 PM, DJ-Pfulio <<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:DJPfulio@jdpfu.com">DJPfulio@jdpfu.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
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> NC's Take on "Engineer" titles:<br>
> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.bizjournals.com/triad/stories/2004/04/12/focus3.html"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.bizjournals.com/<wbr>triad/stories/2004/04/12/<wbr>focus3.html</a><br>
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I find it odd the home of RedHat (and thus, the RHCE) is
having this conversation.<br>
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Aren’t the remaining “Engineer” infractions:<br>
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CCIE<br>
RHCE<br>
MCSE<br>
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??<br>
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I seem to remember an urban legend that engineers generally
consider the CCIE level and quality to be sufficient enough
to leave Cisco alone. Anyone else ever hear that?<br>
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—j<br>
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