<div dir="ltr"><div>To get back to the OP, Cory Doctorow has said that ensuring software security is analogous to ensuring water quality. We have some (limited) control over how good our water is, but ultimately we must trust the chemists and technicians at the source of the water, whether they are at the local municipal water plant or the factory where the water was bottled. Sometimes even that trust is misplaced, as in Flint Michigan, other cities with heavy metal contamination problems, and parts of Appalachia where coal byproducts have polluted the water supply.<br><br>The companies who sell us the digital devices we use don't make those devices secure for us. If I buy a Nest thermostat, a Vizio TV or even a Philips Hue lightbulb, I must trust the organizations which made those devices. They currently have no motivation to work to deserve that trust. Perhaps some day after enough scandals some regulation will emerge.<br><br>I am vulnerable of course, as are we all. The radio driver in my smartphone, for example, is a Proprietary minefield of unexamined code and secret security holes, in spite of the AOSP Android build on top of it. I have no clue at all about the software in my wife's new car, yet I trust my life and family to it regularly. That doesn't mean I should give up trying to make myself safer. If I lived in Flint, I would buy and use a water still. Here in Atlanta, I can use Open Source software on my computers. I can (for now) avoid devices like internet-connected lightbulbs, TVs which surf the web, or TCP/IP enabled coffee pots, at least in my own home. We can only mitigate risk. We cannot eliminate it, whether in our water or our devices.<br><br></div>-- CHS<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Feb 10, 2017 at 9:07 AM, Lightner, Jeffrey <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:JLightner@dsservices.com" target="_blank">JLightner@dsservices.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">My drink is Myer’s (dark Jamaican) rum and tonic. The tonic always throws wait staff and bartenders off.<u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">There’s also a couple of nice dark rums from India but they are seldom seen here. I had them in India and found one of them oddly enough at a store in Chattanooga
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">The most difficult time I had finding good rum was when I lived in the Caribbean. Apparently they ship all the good stuff north. I typically drank Red Stripe
beer instead (or of course the ubiquitous rum cocktail/punch everyone serves that covers the taste of the rum). Grenada also had a nice local liqueur called Le Grenade made from nutmeg (which was their chief export along with mace, the outer covering of
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<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jim Kinney<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, February 09, 2017 6:12 PM<span class=""><br>
<b>To:</b> Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [ale] Vizio TVs Sucking Privacy<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
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<pre>Seems my hearing is better than a few selected 20-30 yr olds. I can<u></u><u></u></pre>
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<p class="MsoNormal">go get a bottle of The Kraken. Black spice rum. 94 proof. Very, very tasty stuff!<u></u><u></u></p>
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