<div dir="auto"><div>><span style="font-family:sans-serif">Anything we can imagine will/or</span><br style="font-family:sans-serif"><span style="font-family:sans-serif">can be done. </span><span style="font-family:sans-serif">Ultra-sonic networking between devices with speakers and microphones.</span></div><div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif"><br></font></div><div dir="auto"><font face="sans-serif">My god. This is a horrifying concept.<br></font><div class="gmail_extra" dir="auto"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Feb 9, 2017 12:35 PM, "DJ-Pfulio" <<a href="mailto:DJPfulio@jdpfu.com">DJPfulio@jdpfu.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">It is just a matter of time.<br>
<br>
Plus IoT stuff **IS** both a target AND an issue.<br>
Got a Vizio smart-TV (11m sold)? It has been sucking up everything<br>
shown on the screen for years.<br>
<a href="https://www.ftc.gov/news-events/blogs/business-blog/2017/02/what-vizio-was-doing-behind-tv-screen" rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.ftc.gov/news-<wbr>events/blogs/business-blog/<wbr>2017/02/what-vizio-was-doing-<wbr>behind-tv-screen</a><br>
<br>
"Vizio captured as many as 100 billion data points each day from<br>
millions of TVs."<br>
"$1.5 million payment to the FTC and an additional civil penalty to New<br>
Jersey for a total of $2.2 million."<br>
<br>
That isn't even a slap on the wrist. $150M fine is needed to get their<br>
attention. What about all the people outside NJ with these TVs?<br>
<br>
Running linux doesn't make anyone safe. Anything we can imagine will/or<br>
can be done.<br>
<br>
Ultra-sonic networking between devices with speakers and microphones.<br>
<br>
It is passed time that we control our networks appropriately. I'm<br>
included in that "we", BTW.<br>
<br>
<br>
On 02/09/2017 10:29 AM, Charles Shapiro wrote:<br>
> These tools have been seen in the wild. Linux is not a target. 'Nuff said.<br>
><br>
> -- CHS<br>
><br>
><br>
> On Wed, Feb 8, 2017 at 4:58 PM, Alex Carver <<a href="mailto:agcarver%2Bale@acarver.net">agcarver+ale@acarver.net</a><br>
> <mailto:<a href="mailto:agcarver%2Bale@acarver.net">agcarver+ale@acarver.<wbr>net</a>>> wrote:<br>
><br>
> On 2017-02-08 09:25, DJ-Pfulio wrote:<br>
><br>
> > I can see a day when we need to drop known networking methods on our<br>
> > LANs to aid in the fight against this issues.<br>
> ><br>
> > If you aren't blocking general egress traffic from your LAN, perhaps it<br>
> > is time to start, even at home.<br>
> ><br>
><br>
> "You're going to need a bigger boat." (firewall)<br>
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