<html><head></head><body>Fetchmail should pull from anywhere and then dump into any format you like. <br>
Or set remote country email service to forward to private server.<br>
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Hmm. Wondering if there's a "raid 5/6 for email" yet. <br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On September 29, 2016 8:41:32 AM EDT, DJ-Pfulio <DJPfulio@jdpfu.com> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<pre class="k9mail">Secret warrants with mute-clauses are my issue.<br /><br />I also have an issue with non-specific searches ... which the 4th<br />amendment doesn't allow. That's the meaning of "probable cause" ... they<br />should already know what they need, not "give us everything" like net<br />fishing. That isn't allowed.<br /><br />Using any service doesn't stop secret warrants, if inside the USA.<br /><br />If the mail is stored inside your locked property and you own and run<br />the systems, hard for a secret govt warrant to be delivered without your<br />knowledge. It won't stop them from seeing it, but at least it won't be<br />secret. You will know. If it is at a US-based VPS, you won't know.<br /><br />OTOH, as we've seen millions of times, the public thinks google and<br />gmail are just fine. Sheep. That isn't to say that you shouldn't have<br />gmail accounts. Hard to use an android phone that way, but definitely<br />limit the use of all those public a
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if you care about privacy at<br />all. I know that google, microsoft, yahoo, and others are fighting the<br />USGovt over illegal, broad, warrants, but until they are successful, we<br />need to handle this ourselves.<br /><br />ProtonMail is in a country that cares about privacy. They have free<br />accounts. I have a few but only use them for specialized needs.<br /><br />Does anyone have a setup to use some service like protonmail, but pull<br />those messages local, stored in your own IMAP server that is accessible<br />from the world like any other email? The trick is to pull all the<br />messages so none are stored on a service for very long ... and hope they<br />don't have continuous backups.<br /><br />The same issues go for all cloud services. Giving away too much<br />information that can fairly easily be run from a R-pi at home.<br /><br />We are Linux people. We CAN do this ourselves.<br /><br />On 09/29/2016 07:24 AM, Jim Kinney wrote:<br /><blockquote
class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;"> Yep!<br /> <br /> Free continuing services come with a price tag that's hidden.<br /> <br /> Startmail offers very affordable, very secure email service. Same bunch<br /> that does startpage search.<br /> <br /> I'm having a similar discussion with work about continually using github<br /> for work-in-progress code that is used with patient data. Students have<br /> pushed portions of code that should not be public yet for various<br /> reasons and it's a problem.<br /> <br /> <br /> On Sep 29, 2016 5:33 AM, "DJ-Pfulio" <DJPfulio@jdpfu.com<br /> <mailto:DJPfulio@jdpfu.com>> wrote:<br /> <br /> Even client/lawyer communications aren't safe from DHS prying:<br /> <br /> <a
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