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<p>Speaking of SSL and mail transmission... Anyone here tried
running Darkmail yet? It's coming from Ladar Levison of Lavabit
and, according to the specifications, does end-to-end encryption
that includes metadata. Supposedly it's "back" compatible with
SMTP as well. I've not looked at it in a while but it caught my
interest after all the legal drama surrounding Lavabit and the
Snowden leaks.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 9/29/2016 1:21 PM, George P. Burdell
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<div dir="ltr">Anybody who has actually run their own mail servers
for a while knows how much of a tremendous chore it is just to
keep your mail from being blacklisted. Most major providers
will, if one person acts up in your datacenter and you're not at
some enormous facility with a name brand, simply ban the entire
netblock. They don't care about collateral damage. I even
get mail server admins who block my Google Business email ...
and that's a PAYING space, and ergo one of the least polluted
netblocks for spam on the entire internet.
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<div>Oh yea, you can still do your own mail server. But why on
Earth would you want to? How much money is your time worth?
How valuable are your emails? How much does it cost you if
an important one doesn't make it? And I say that as a card
carrying member of the EFF who has more than a passing
distaste for the surveillance state we have become. The NSA
didn't kill private email servers ... spam did.</div>
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<div>It also doesn't help that pretty much every stand alone
mail client is varying degrees of unsatisfactory (at least for
my multi-account needs). Opera Mail was PERFECT. And they
killed it. </div>
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<div>And we'll assume for the sake of argument that spam
filtering isn't a problem and there are tremendous mail
clients available. That doesn't fix that the overwhelming
majority of email traffic goes over in clear text, and the NSA
will almost certainly see and record it in transit with their
strategy of putting snooping stations just upstream (up-pipe?)
from major people of interest like Google. If one day all
email is traversing over SSL, Alex's idea will be the simplest
way to defend your privacy without signing up for the headache
of running your own mail server.</div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 29, 2016 at 12:01 PM, Alex
Carver <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:agcarver+ale@acarver.net" target="_blank">agcarver+ale@acarver.net</a>></span>
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class="">On 2016-09-29 02:30, DJ-Pfulio wrote:<br>
> Even client/lawyer communications aren't safe from
DHS prying:<br>
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> <a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://www.homelandsecuritynewswire.com/dr20160927-feds-we-can-read-all-your-email-and-you-ll-never-know"
rel="noreferrer" target="_blank">http://www.<wbr>homelandsecuritynewswire.com/<wbr>dr20160927-feds-we-can-read-<wbr>all-your-email-and-you-ll-<wbr>never-know</a><br>
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</span>Yes, this is why I run my own server and download my
free email services<br>
(gmail, etc.) to my local hard drive on a regular basis
(deleting the<br>
server side copies after download).<br>
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