<html><body><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000"><div><br></div><div><br></div><hr id="zwchr" data-marker="__DIVIDER__"><div data-marker="__HEADERS__"><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid #1010FF; margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px; color: #000; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" data-mce-style="border-left: 2px solid #1010FF; margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px; color: #000; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><b>From: </b>"DJ-Pfulio" <djpfulio@jdpfu.com><br><b>To: </b>ale@ale.org<br><b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, September 14, 2016 8:08:11 AM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [ale] Tmux, where have you been alll my life?<br></blockquote></div><div data-marker="__QUOTED_TEXT__"><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid #1010FF; margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px; color: #000; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" data-mce-style="border-left: 2px solid #1010FF; margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px; color: #000; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">Just looked at that tmux cheat sheet. Seems like a bunch of complexity and keys<br>just to do something a push of a mouse will handled when using multiple xterms<br>with focus-follows-mouse setup in the WM.<br><br>I've got to be missing something. For years people I respect have been crazy for<br>screen or tmux, but I just don't see the point.<br>* My connections are solid, disconnects just don't happen.<br>* I know how to use 'tee' so monitoring running jobs from anywhere isn't hard.<br>* My desktop can be accessed from anywhere in the world, so anything running<br>there will be seen as it progresses (GUI stuff).<br>* I know how to use batch processing (TaskSpooler) and 'at' for long running<br>tasks that need to be queued.<br>* screen layouts are handled by normal X/Windows resources and WM settings.<br>Hadar xterms open upper left. Romulus xterms open lower right. ... have settings<br>for those things for decades.<br><br>I've got to be missing something that tmux does. Right? Please convert me.<br></blockquote><div>I do a lot of programming. I also test. I also do support. I create a lot of bugs. </div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>The last statement sums up why tmux works for me. I need to see as many lines of code on my screen as possible. </div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>Consider right now I'm going through LFS on 3 pieces of hardware at once. i586, i686, and x86_64. I can see the progress of each on one screen.</div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>To give you an idea of why I've taken a screen shot.</div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/2486826/tmux.png</div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>I can click in any window. If I need more lines and columns I can adjust with my mouse. If I need to really focus I can use 'C-b z' to expand that window to full. Use the same keys to put it back to original size.</div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>Before tmux I'd click on different tabs to check on progress. In the shot you will notice only 9 tabs in gnome-terminal. I'd normally have many more.</div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>My goals with the software I create is: "See as much info as possible in as few seconds as possible". Scrolling, clicking links, and digging turns seconds into minutes. "Walk into a NOC, look at the main screen from the door you just went through and see the overall picture."</div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div></div></div></body></html>