<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Well, I have been a HIPAA compliance person for a major hospital in the past.</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">The issue is not showing ID for the purposes of proving who I am. The issue is the scanning of my drivers license (with all the PII and the personal signature on it) for storage in their system.</div><div id="AppleMailSignature"><br></div><div id="AppleMailSignature">I have ZERO problem proving who I am. I have a lot of problems allowing them to store the scan of my ID.<br><br>Sent from my iPhone<div>Jerald M. Sheets, jr.</div></div><div><br>On Aug 24, 2016, at 5:15 PM, Chuck Balog <<a href="mailto:chuckbalog@gmail.com">chuckbalog@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>The flip side of this is that they take your ID to be sure that it's you. Identity theft can take many forms. Here's an old KHN article that's relevant: <a href="http://khn.org/news/medical-id/">http://khn.org/news/medical-id/</a><br><br></div>However, having worked for HHS, a hospital, and an insurance company, I can tell you that only a few pieces of the information that they ask for is for claims. Many insurance companies require an SSN for a claim to be electronically processed along with the plan details, etc. The other info they ask for like your phone numbers, where you work, etc. is meant for collections. I will tell you that I've never known a medical office to run a credit check on a patient. I have seen them refuse to process a claim and slide the paper form over to anyone refusing to provide SSN and demand payment in full.<br><br></div>I can tell you that just about every EMR system that's consumed as a service (most are these days) has to have at least an annual audit (but commonly quarterly) to comply with the HIPAA Security Rule. Details here:<a href="http://www.nist.gov/healthcare/security/hipaasecurity.cfm">http://www.nist.gov/healthcare/security/hipaasecurity.cfm</a> I'm not saying that makes it safe, (because I've had some WTF moments in audits) but someone is watching and following up.<br><br></div>Hope the info is valuable.<br></div><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 4:17 PM leam hall <<a href="mailto:leamhall@gmail.com">leamhall@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>While I agree with your concern, if you were born in the US, have a credit card, see a doctor, or shop with a credit card, pretty much all of your information is for sale world-wide. The illusion of security is voided by the reality of security costs and the public still shopping at Target.</div><div><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 24, 2016 at 3:57 PM, Jerald Sheets <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:questy@gmail.com" target="_blank">questy@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><span style="font-family:-webkit-standard;font-size:inherit;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Since many of you are privacy conscious, I’m curious as to how you handle the increasing requirements of medical offices to scan and store your drivers license to receive care. </span><div><span style="font-family:-webkit-standard;font-size:inherit;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><font face="-webkit-standard" size="3">I don’t mind proving who I am, but we just got dropped by a pediatrician for refusing to allow them to scan and store our driver’s license. It was a good pediatrician, too!</font></span></div><div><span style="font-family:-webkit-standard;font-size:inherit;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:-webkit-standard;font-size:inherit;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)">Any anecdotes, links to the actual statutes, etc.?</span></div><div><span style="font-family:-webkit-standard;font-size:inherit;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></span></div><div><span style="font-family:-webkit-standard;font-size:inherit;background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><br></span></div><div><span style="background-color:rgb(255,255,255)"><font face="-webkit-standard" size="3">—jms</font></span></div></div><br>_______________________________________________<br>
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