<html><head></head><body><div>On Wed, 2016-08-17 at 11:32 -0400, Chris Fowler wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite"><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000"><div><br></div><div><br></div><hr id="zwchr" data-marker="__DIVIDER__"><div data-marker="__HEADERS__"><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid #1010FF; margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px; color: #000; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" data-mce-style="border-left: 2px solid #1010FF; margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px; color: #000; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Jim Kinney" <jim.kinney@gmail.com><br><b>To: </b>"Atlanta User Group (E-mail)" <ale@ale.org><br><b>Sent: </b>Tuesday, August 16, 2016 11:18:02 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [ale] OT: rant<br></blockquote></div><div data-marker="__QUOTED_TEXT__"><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid #1010FF; margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px; color: #000; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" data-mce-style="border-left: 2px solid #1010FF; margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px; color: #000; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><p dir="ltr">Bunch of different ways. NetworkManager can now handle all the magic script-fu to handle everything from simple dhcp through redundant teaming with failover.</p><p dir="ltr">But the output is still ifcfg-fu scripts in /etc/sysconfig/network-scripts</p><p dir="ltr">The article doesn't mention that 7 uses pci bus name stuff like enp0s0f1 instead of eth0.</p></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I'm running Jessie on a box that is i586 and it does not run NM. It uses /etc/network/interfaces. It seems to work very well. I did not have to disable NM to stop dhcp. I said "static" and it was static. The scripting works well too.</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>And in RHEL/CentOS/Fedora land, NM can be ignored/disabled/removed and plain static ifcfg-* scripts can be used. The only goal of NetworkManager was to simplify the setup of networking. In it's original form, it was nearly a total fail. In it's current form, it's a very capable that can handle the heavy lifting of a complicated configuration correctly through the admin choice of pure cli (the most capable, most features), a simple text gui with curses (rather nice if a tad clunky tabbing through menus) or a full gui if using gtk gui stuff (does more than the tui version but not as much as the cli).</div><div><br></div><div>A big thing that happened after the entire admin world screamed was the interim config files used by NM are no longer used. While they are used to record the state of the network when NM launches or an interface is open to change things, it is no longer consulted on bootup or network restart as the source of config. The _real_ config is exactly that and NM parses all of it for use in the GUIs. The cli makes direct changes to the system files with no interim file storage at all on command completion. There is a command, 'nmcli reload' that is used to resync NM with the manual changes to the real config files. NM state is captured at startup and manual changes are not stored after the fact without the reload. The nmcli use the temp files to perform a test of the proposed configuration. It has been my experience that manual changes to the real config files are always used when the network is started from boot or restarted from the console. That was a needed change in function.</div><blockquote type="cite"><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000"><div data-marker="__QUOTED_TEXT__"><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div></div></div></blockquote><div><span><pre><pre>-- <br></pre>James P. Kinney III
Every time you stop a school, you will have to build a jail. What you
gain at one end you lose at the other. It's like feeding a dog on his
own tail. It won't fatten the dog.
- Speech 11/23/1900 Mark Twain
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