<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space;" class=""><div class="">Except the little statement “people with a clue”… implying anyone using the product must NOT have a clue. It is indeed insulting.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Apr 25, 2016, at 12:26 PM, James Sumners <<a href="mailto:james.sumners@gmail.com" class="">james.sumners@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class="">I wasn't. Except to the distro. <span class=""></span><br class=""><br class="">On Monday, April 25, 2016, Todor Fassl <<a href="mailto:fassl.tod@gmail.com" class="">fassl.tod@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">No need to be insulting, guy.<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
On 04/25/2016 08:21 AM, James Sumners wrote:<br class="">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Why Ubuntu is used by people with a clue is beyond me. Well, except to<br class="">
throw it at a family member who doesn't have one. But this even makes<br class="">
that seem like a silly notion. There are better distributions out<br class="">
there. Some even forked from Ubuntu.<br class="">
<br class="">
On Mon, Apr 25, 2016 at 9:02 AM, DJ-Pfulio <<a class="">djpfulio@jdpfu.com</a>> wrote:<br class="">
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
In Ubuntu LTS, there's an issue with many packages not receiving security updates.<br class="">
<br class="">
<a href="https://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/ubuntu-lts-many-vulnerabilities-despite-long-term-support.385386/" target="_blank" class="">https://www.wilderssecurity.com/threads/ubuntu-lts-many-vulnerabilities-despite-long-term-support.385386/</a><br class="">
====<br class="">
$ ubuntu-support-status --show-unsupported<br class="">
Support status summary of 'lubuntu':<br class="">
<br class="">
You have 196 packages (8.0%) supported until February 2015 (9m)<br class="">
You have 12 packages (0.5%) supported until January 2017 (9m)<br class="">
You have 1679 packages (68.8%) supported until May 2019 (5y)<br class="">
You have 148 packages (6.1%) supported until May 2017 (3y)<br class="">
<br class="">
You have 101 packages (4.1%) that can not/no-longer be downloaded<br class="">
You have 304 packages (12.5%) that are unsupported<br class="">
<br class="">
No longer downloadable:<br class="">
<insert huge-ass-list> .......<br class="">
<br class="">
Unsupported:<br class="">
<insert even-huger-huge-ass-list> .......<br class="">
====<br class="">
Saw this and freaked out a little! 196 packages have lost support already on a<br class="">
14.04 desktop. Most are java and perl helpers. The perl stuff doesn't bother<br class="">
me, since I use perl-brew for all my real work in perl (never depend on the<br class="">
system perl stuff). But there are some ssh2, TLS, and qemu in that list too!<br class="">
<br class="">
Supported until February 2015 (9m):<br class="">
chromium-browser chromium-browser-l10n expect .... qemu-common<br class="">
libsqlite3-dev libssh2-1 libssh2-1-dev libssl-dev libgnutls-dev libgnutls28<br class="">
libgnutlsxx27<br class="">
<br class="">
A non-supported browser is a non-starter for me. This is on my primary desktop!<br class="">
Must do something about that, even if it means removal of the browser.<br class="">
<br class="">
to see which installed pkgs have and do not have support on your boxes.<br class="">
It basically comes down to which repository the packages are in. Just something<br class="">
more to be aware about.<br class="">
<br class="">
Someone did the same thing for Debian and claimed that all the package security<br class="">
fixes were back ported to the "supported" releases.<br class="">
<br class="">
Lucy (Canonical), you got some 'splaning to do.<br class="">
<br class="">
_______________________________________________<br class="">
Ale mailing list<br class="">
<a class="">Ale@ale.org</a><br class="">
<a href="http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale" target="_blank" class="">http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale</a><br class="">
See JOBS, ANNOUNCE and SCHOOLS lists at<br class="">
<a href="http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo" target="_blank" class="">http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo</a><br class="">
</blockquote>
<br class="">
<br class="">
<br class="">
</blockquote>
<br class="">
-- <br class="">
Todd<br class="">
_______________________________________________<br class="">
Ale mailing list<br class="">
<a class="">Ale@ale.org</a><br class="">
<a href="http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale" target="_blank" class="">http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale</a><br class="">
See JOBS, ANNOUNCE and SCHOOLS lists at<br class="">
<a href="http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo" target="_blank" class="">http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo</a><br class="">
</blockquote><br class=""><br class="">-- <br class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="">James Sumners<br class=""><a href="http://james.sumners.info/" target="_blank" class="">http://james.sumners.info/</a> (technical profile)</div><div class=""><a href="http://jrfom.com/" target="_blank" class="">http://jrfom.com/</a> (personal site)</div><div class=""><a href="http://haplo.bandcamp.com/" target="_blank" class="">http://haplo.bandcamp.com/</a> (band page)</div></div></div></div><br class="">
_______________________________________________<br class="">Ale mailing list<br class=""><a href="mailto:Ale@ale.org" class="">Ale@ale.org</a><br class="">http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale<br class="">See JOBS, ANNOUNCE and SCHOOLS lists at<br class="">http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo<br class=""></div></blockquote></div><br class=""></body></html>