<HTML><BODY><p style='margin-top: 0px;' dir="ltr">Can't respond inline on this app, so bare with me:</p>
<p dir="ltr">Games: currently they only use two cores max. In real world test of real games measuring FPS it goes head to head with the pre- skybridge i7 at a fraction of the cost. With in PLUS or minus 10% of the i7 depending on the game. Some games you may see a difference depending on the GPU.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Integrated GPU are not good for intensive games, but are for casual games. It just depends on your <br>
Poison.</p>
<p dir="ltr">That is news to me about GPU and vms but I have been meaning to test it out. My laptop has two GPUs, an Intel chip and a nvidia optarun. I think that r9 card has multiple GPUs, just have not tested it. I hope to move my win onto a VM so I can fire it up to play. With 8 core 4gig procs, I hope it would power the VM fast enough.</p>
<p dir="ltr">I am not a hard core gamer, but the ones I do like require decent video. The vaper ware from AMD this year is suppose to increase AMD core process about 40%, which would put them on par with Intel. Not that even games require that much from a cpu.</p>
<p dir="ltr">That i7 would beat the pants off of the fx8370 in certain multithreaded applications, and I mean soundly. But most home users don't run this apps. Power is a consideration. I guess I am running 145w when over clocked. I actually turn on the machine on chilly days when I start work in my home office, for heat ;)</p>
<p dir="ltr">Open up emails, process some doc, look at porn, and I only spent $750 for the CPU! Win! Not!</p>
<p dir="ltr">Iirc I spent $120 for the CPU and the MB and I have a KVM running screaming machine that can play any game on the market.<br></p>
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Friday, 26 February 2016, 05:35PM -05:00 from DJ-Pfulio <<a href="mailto:DJPfulio@jdpfu.com">DJPfulio@jdpfu.com</a>>:<br><br><blockquote style='border-left:1px solid #FC2C38; margin:0px 0px 0px 10px; padding:0px 0px 0px 10px;' cite="14565262190000007663">
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<div id="style_14565262190000007663_BODY">On 02/26/16 16:17, <a href="/compose?To=damon@damtek.com">damon@damtek.com</a> wrote:<br>
<div class="mail-quote-collapse">> My new system is AMD fx.8370 with a amd radeon r9 380. Why? Bang for<br>
> your buck.<br>
> <br>
> 8 cores running at 4g. You can get Intel that does specific jobs<br>
> better, but not for $149. Good for games and the vms I will run.<br>
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$149?!!! Very nice for almost 9000 passmarks!<br>
<a href="https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+FX-8370+Eight-Core" target="_blank" >https://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=AMD+FX-8370+Eight-Core</a><br>
Little high on the power use, but power isn't THAT expensive here.<br>
<br>
Saw an i7-3770 with similar performance (9300 passmark) (4 cores) and<br>
77W, but for $100 more. At that price, Intel Core i5-4590S (7000<br>
passmark) and i5-4590 (7200 passmark) (non-S)<br>
<br>
Thought that fewer cores was better for gaming and that games don't<br>
"speak" hyperthreading. Is that still true? The i7 cores are almost 50%<br>
faster (core-to-core).<br>
<br>
I much prefer the onboard IGPs - no need to add more heat + cost to a<br>
case with a GPU. ;) But that's me ... suspect more people prefer a<br>
separate GPU. OTOH, without the IGP, people who want to use VGA<br>
passthru to a Windows VM for gaming need to get 2 GPUs, since HW<br>
passthru can only be for 1 OS at a time and the hostOS needs a GPU too.<br>
<br>
For VMs - there's no question that more cores is nice.<br>
<br>
Sometimes I compare CPUs using CPUBoss and CPU-World.com -<br>
<a href="http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i5-4590-vs-AMD-FX-8370" target="_blank" >http://cpuboss.com/cpus/Intel-Core-i5-4590-vs-AMD-FX-8370</a><br>
Sometimes they have the wrong specs, so look for big mistakes for things<br>
you think are important. I'd rate these as very similar overall, just<br>
with different strengths. Looks like a good choice - plus the AMD<br>
supports ECC RAM, so get down with ZFS!<br>
<br>
And don't forget that newer systems may require DDR4 RAM (not the AMD<br>
above), which is a premium cost these days. For me, I'd avoid that,<br>
since there is spare DDR3 RAM around here. I avoided DDR3 and SATA for<br>
about 3-4 yrs too. ;)<br>
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