<p dir="ltr">150 W won't drive even the RAM in the systems I build :-)</p>
<p dir="ltr">With dual, huge CPUs, monster GPU and coprocessor cards, 1.4 KW are my little ones. Next gen are 2KW.</p>
<p dir="ltr">If this gear was in my house, I could use this as a furnace or hot water supply.</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Feb 25, 2016 11:44 PM, "DjPfulio" <<a href="mailto:DjPfulio@jdpfu.com">DjPfulio@jdpfu.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div>I use cheap power supplies. <br>
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Would much rather spend money on a quality ups. Only once in 30 plus years has a power supply caused issues.<br>
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However, I have been purchasing Seasonic ultra quiet PSU's the last 8 years. Quiet is more important than anything else to me these days. <br>
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Plus none of my systems requires more than 150 watts of power so those huge 750 watt power supplies are a complete waste in my environment. If you stay away from AMD desktop CPUs and Intel Core i7 CPUs then the power requirements are much less.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 25 February 2016 17:37:44 GMT-05:00, Jim Kinney <<a href="mailto:jkinney@jimkinney.us" target="_blank">jkinney@jimkinney.us</a>> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
<pre><br><br>On February 25, 2016 5:34:42 PM EST, Greg Clifton <<a href="mailto:gccfof5@gmail.com" target="_blank">gccfof5@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid #729fcf;padding-left:1ex">Part 2 YES! and so can bad power. NEVER use a crappy, cheap, light in<br>weight, power supply no matter what the sticker says it is rated at. I<br>once<br>knew of a vendor of computer parts in Norcross who had power supplies<br>without stickers and put what ever sticker on the power supply that the<br>customer wanted (back in those days something like 150, 200 or 250<br>Watt) on<br>the same supplies. I expect the quality of even crappy power supplies<br>is<br>better now than then (nearly 30 years ago), but when it comes to power<br>supplies, you pretty much get what you pay for and heavier power<br>supplies<br>have more capacity to maintain the rated output, esp in noisy AC supply<br>environments.<br></blockquote><br>+100<br><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid #729fcf;padding-left:1ex"><br>On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 4:38 PM, Boris Borisov <<a href="mailto:bugyatl@gmail.com" target="_blank">bugyatl@gmail.com</a>><br>wrote:<br><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid #ad7fa8;padding-left:1ex"> Ok I did put them in two slots 0 and 1 which were in blue color. But<br> memtest still shows single channel mode. Maybe is bios option or<br></blockquote>something<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid #ad7fa8;padding-left:1ex"> else I didn't had time to play. PC is part from equipment buried<br></blockquote>behind<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid #ad7fa8;padding-left:1ex"> wires so no time to do it twice.<br><br> Thanks for all opinions.<br><br> Part 2 question:<br><br> Can bad memory ruin
Windows install?<br> On Feb 25, 2016 3:38 PM, "Greg Clifton" <<a href="mailto:gccfof5@gmail.com" target="_blank">gccfof5@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid #8ae234;padding-left:1ex"> Yes, start with the lowest numbered slots as mentioned above 0 or 1<br></blockquote></blockquote>as<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid #ad7fa8;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid #8ae234;padding-left:1ex"> the case may be, but the like colored slots should be labeled 0A and<br></blockquote></blockquote>0B or<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid #ad7fa8;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid #8ae234;padding-left:1ex"> 1A and 1B and 2A and 2B, and so forth. Most motherboards can work<br></blockquote></blockquote>with a<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid #ad7fa8;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid #8ae234;padding-left:1ex"> single memory module installed and in a single CPU motherboard, it<br></blockquote></blockquote>probably<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid #ad7fa8;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid #8ae234;padding-left:1ex"> won't matter which color slots you use, but in order to benefit from<br></blockquote></blockquote>the<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid #ad7fa8;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid #8ae234;padding-left:1ex"> dual channel nature (and
thus best memory performance) of the<br></blockquote></blockquote>motherboard,<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid #ad7fa8;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid #8ae234;padding-left:1ex"> put the modules in like colored slots.<br><br> On Thu, Feb 25, 2016 at 3:06 PM, DJ-Pfulio <<a href="mailto:djpfulio@jdpfu.com" target="_blank">djpfulio@jdpfu.com</a>><br></blockquote></blockquote>wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid #ad7fa8;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid #8ae234;padding-left:1ex"><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid #fcaf3e;padding-left:1ex"> On 02/25/2016 12:36 PM, Boris Borisov wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid #e9b96e;padding-left:1ex"> I have 2 sticks by 2gb. My mobo has 4 slots 2 dark and 2 light<br></blockquote> colored. Where<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid #e9b96e;padding-left:1ex"> should I insert sticks to get dual channel working.<br><br> No Google time. Don't shoot me :)<br></blockquote><br> Every motherboard is different, so if you don't look it up, you'll<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>never<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid #ad7fa8;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid #8ae234;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid #fcaf3e;padding-left:1ex"> know.<br><br> RTFM for the motherboard.<br><br> Put them in the same colored slots starting with slot 0. That<br></blockquote></blockquote></blockquote>should be<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid #ad7fa8;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid #8ae234;padding-left:1ex"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid #fcaf3e;padding-left:1ex"> safe to<br> get the most performance.<br><br><hr><br> Ale mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:Ale@ale.org" target="_blank">Ale@ale.org</a><br> <a href="http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale" target="_blank">http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale</a><br> See JOBS, ANNOUNCE and SCHOOLS lists at<br> <a href="http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo" target="_blank">http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo</a></blockquote><br><br><br><hr><br> Ale mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:Ale@ale.org" target="_blank">Ale@ale.org</a><br> <a href="http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale" target="_blank">http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale</a><br> See JOBS, ANNOUNCE and SCHOOLS lists at<br> <a href="http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo" target="_blank">http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo</a></blockquote><br><br><hr><br> Ale mailing list<br> <a href="mailto:Ale@ale.org" target="_blank">Ale@ale.org</a><br> <a href="http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale" target="_blank">http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale</a><br> See JOBS, ANNOUNCE and SCHOOLS lists at<br> <a href="http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo" target="_blank">http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo</a></blockquote><br><br><br><br><hr><br><br><hr><br>Ale mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Ale@ale.org" target="_blank">Ale@ale.org</a><br><a href="http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale" target="_blank">http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale</a><br>See JOBS, ANNOUNCE and SCHOOLS lists at<br><a href="http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo" target="_blank">http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo</a><br></blockquote></pre></blockquote></div><br>
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