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On Feb 15, 2016 9:17 AM, "Sean Kilpatrick" <<a href="mailto:kilpatms@gmail.com">kilpatms@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> On Mon, 2016-02-15 at 07:19 -0500, Jim Kinney wrote:<br>
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> > You don't want epel-debug or epel-source so don't edit the file.<br>
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> Okay, I will stop trying.<br>
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> > Selinux will block the permission change. To edit you must use sudo or become root with su.<br>
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> here is partial output from ls -al on /etc/yum.repos.d:</p>
<p dir="ltr">Selinux settings show up only with ls -lZ. It the Z that is the magic.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Unless you want to learn selinux or break your box, don't mess with it. Centos 7 works very, very well in full enforcing mode as a desktop or server with no selinux changes.<br>
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> -rw-rw-rw-. 1 root root 957 Nov 25 2014 epel.repo<br>
> -rw-rw-rw-. 1 root root 1056 Nov 25 2014 epel-testing.repo<br>
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> My limited understanding of the terminology is that when user is listed<br>
> as rw, the user can read and write to the file. Obviously, I made the<br>
> change as root.<br>
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> > If rpm says kdepim is installed, run rpm -qi kdepim for info. Should get same same data from yum info kdepim.<br>
> ><br>
> > If you still don't see it, try yum search pim<br>
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> Tried both of these. Both provide a lot of data -- in fact everything I<br>
> didn't need and not the one thing I do need: where the hell did yum<br>
> hide the damn file. <yum search pim> apparently reports what is<br>
> available on the repos. </p>
<p dir="ltr">Yes. Yum is network to local while rpm is local only. rpm -qa | egrep "kde|pim" will give a list of all installed packages with kde or pim in the name.</p>
<p dir="ltr">The list includes devel, lib, and runtime files,<br>
> along with the main file (kdepim.x86_64), which yum insists is installed<br>
> on the box. </p>
<p dir="ltr">Yay!!! rpm -ql kdepim will show every bit of the installed package. It may be that kdepim is just a macro package that installs a bunch of other stuff. Try</p>
<p dir="ltr">rpm -q --provides kdepim</p>
<p dir="ltr">to see what it makes available. -qi will give a nice blurb on it.</p>
<p dir="ltr"> If it were not installed, <yum remove myfile> would not<br>
> report the hoops it jumps through to erase the file and its<br>
> dependencies.<br>
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> Sean<br>
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> > On February 14, 2016 11:22:36 PM EST, Sean Kilpatrick <<a href="mailto:kilpatms@gmail.com">kilpatms@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
> > >Jim,<br>
> > >earlier Sunday I ran yum update. Two packages were installed, 44 were<br>
> > >upgraded (including a new kernel) and 2 were removed. At the beginning<br>
> > >of that process were these lines:<br>
> > ><br>
> > >Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, langpacks<br>
> > >Loading mirror speeds from cached hostfile<br>
> > > * base: <a href="http://repos.mia.quadranet.com">repos.mia.quadranet.com</a><br>
> > > * epel: <a href="http://reflector.westga.edu">reflector.westga.edu</a><br>
> > > * extras: <a href="http://ftpmirror.your.org">ftpmirror.your.org</a><br>
> > > * nux-dextop: <a href="http://li.nux.ro">li.nux.ro</a><br>
> > > * rpmforge: <a href="http://mirror.teklinks.com">mirror.teklinks.com</a><br>
> > > * rpmfusion-free-updates: <a href="http://mirror.nexcess.net">mirror.nexcess.net</a><br>
> > > * rpmfusion-nonfree-updates: <a href="http://mirror.nexcess.net">mirror.nexcess.net</a><br>
> > > * updates: <a href="http://mirror.lug.udel.edu">mirror.lug.udel.edu</a><br>
> > ><br>
> > >After that was done I ran yum clean all and got this:<br>
> > ><br>
> > >[root@localhost kilpatms]# yum clean all<br>
> > ><br>
> > >Loaded plugins: fastestmirror, langpacks<br>
> > >Cleaning repos: adobe-linux-x86_64 base epel extras nux-dextop rpmforge<br>
> > >rpmfusion-free-updates<br>
> > > : rpmfusion-nonfree-updates updates<br>
> > >Cleaning up everything<br>
> > >Cleaning up list of fastest mirrors<br>
> > ><br>
> > >Looking in /etc/yum.repos.d I see that only two epel repos are listed:<br>
> > >epel.repo and epel-testing.repo<br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > >Continuing to work through this I next tried to check the repo files<br>
> > >and<br>
> > >started by looking at epel.repo.<br>
> > > May have found part of the problem -- and another headache. Epel,<br>
> > >itself, is enabled, but epel-debuginfo and epel-source are not.<br>
> > >(enabled=0)<br>
> > >So I reset the perms to rw rw rw and tried to edit the file so enable<br>
> > >the two branches that were not. Can't do it. I get this message:<br>
> > ><br>
> > >"The document could not be saved, as it was not possible to write to<br>
> > >the<br>
> > >file." That message was generated by Kwrite, from the GUI.<br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > >Any clues as to why I can not edit these files?<br>
> > ><br>
> > >ran the rpm query and the output lists kdepimlibs-akonadi and pimlibs<br>
> > >-4.10 but not kdepim itself.<br>
> > ><br>
> > >Have removed and reinstalled kdepim. All 22M of it, including the<br>
> > >dependency (kdepim-libs. But when I rerun the rpm query only the two<br>
> > >pimlib files are listed. The base kdepim is not listed, even though yum<br>
> > >reports it has just been installed. And I can't find it anywhere. I<br>
> > >have no idea where yum has hidden this file, but it isn't in the usual<br>
> > >places. I will close out the shell and do a logout/login. If a<br>
> > >miracle<br>
> > >occurs and this program should magically appear I will send out a<br>
> > >BINGO!! within the next few minutes. But I have my doubts.<br>
> > ><br>
> > >Sean<br>
> > ><br>
> > >--------------------------------------------------------------------<br>
> > ><br>
> > ><br>
> > >On Sun, 2016-02-14 at 20:16 -0500, Jim Kinney wrote:<br>
> > >> Sean,<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> Verify you have a working epel repo<br>
> > >> Yum check update<br>
> > >> You should see epel being checked. If not, you need to get that<br>
> > >working<br>
> > >> first. Yum remove, yum clean all, yum install. See prior in this<br>
> > >thread for<br>
> > >> link to repo rpm. Do another yum clean all and another yum check<br>
> > >update to<br>
> > >> verify epel.<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> Next check what kde stuff you do have<br>
> > >> Rpm -qa | grep -i kde<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> Look for kdepim. You need kdepim-lib as well. If you're missing<br>
> > >either, yum<br>
> > >> remove kdepim. Yum install kdepim.<br>
> > >> Logout. Login. It should show up in the menu.<br>
> > >> On Feb 14, 2016 3:31 PM, "Sean Kilpatrick" <<a href="mailto:kilpatms@gmail.com">kilpatms@gmail.com</a>><br>
> > >wrote:<br>
> > >><br>
> > >> > Thanks for the suggestion.<br>
> > >> > yum says it isn't in the repos. "Nothing to do."<br>
> > >> ><br>
> > >> > Sean<br>
> > >> ><br>
> > >> > -----------------------------------------------------<br>
> > >> ><br>
> > >> ><br>
> > >> > On Sun, 2016-02-14 at 15:03 -0500, James Taylor wrote:<br>
> > >> > > This may be of no use at all to this discussion, but just in<br>
> > >case...<br>
> > >> > > I'm on openSUSE, and when I look at the dependencies for my<br>
> > >installed<br>
> > >> > kontact package, it shows this:<br>
> > >> > ><br>
> > >> > ><br>
> > >> > > kontact - Personal Information Manager<br>
> > >> > ><br>
> > >> > > Version:<br>
> > >> > > 4.14.10-1.3<br>
> > >> > ><br>
> > >> > > Provides:<br>
> > >> > > application()<br>
> > >> > > libkontactprivate.so.4()(64bit)<br>
> > >> > > application(kde4/Kontact.desktop)<br>
> > >> > > kde4-kontact = 4.3.0<br>
> > >> > > kontact = 4.14.10-1.3<br>
> > >> > > kontact(x86-64) = 4.14.10-1.3<br>
> > >> ><br>
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