<div dir="ltr">We have to determine what will be used. For example we don't want Flash or Java and etc.<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Feb 10, 2016 at 8:20 AM, DJ-Pfulio <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:djpfulio@jdpfu.com" target="_blank">djpfulio@jdpfu.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I attended the BBB presentation.<br>
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Broadcasting is something best left of services, IMHO. Sorry I wasn't clearer.<br>
<br>
There are plenty of video broadcasting services that work for free - beyond just<br>
youtube. Livestream, take-it-live, Justin.tv and about 5 other come to mind.<br>
What about having an ALE Channel on Roku? That's an option, if someone is<br>
interested. We have lots of knowledge here and almost everyone can do a<br>
screencast - for that, "simple screen recorder" makes it really, really, easy.<br>
Then add audio with audacity and mux it together with almost any video tool (or<br>
ffmpeg does this easily too). This is all done as separate steps, which means<br>
that live-streaming is out. People like to see a human face during a<br>
presentation, but they need to see the slides or window more. Seeing both - that<br>
is ideal, provided the audio doesn't suck.<br>
<br>
Capturing and muxing the many different inputs **during** the presentation is<br>
really what I'm after. OBS is an amazing tool for that. Basically, any number of<br>
audio and video inputs can be merged or swapped during the video production<br>
stage to create a single video+audio output. Strangely, quality video is easier<br>
to get than quality audio. ;) Good audio is hard, really, hard. I've looked at<br>
all sorts of solutions but end up coming back to a $200+ wireless mic system for<br>
the presenter or adding audio after the fact in a controlled sound environment.<br>
Had hoped that bluetooth would work, but the 2-3 sec delay is just crazy and<br>
asking someone to use my cell phone and "this" lapel mic hasn't worked either.<br>
Scratchy sounds from movement.<br>
<br>
Setup BBB a few years ago and it was ugly for everything except the actual<br>
conference meetings. Even getting a pre-built, in a VM, setup wasn't trivial to<br>
use. I had no way to know what security that pre-built setup had. I suspect<br>
ZERO. Plus it used flash. Maybe they've moved to webm and html5 by now? The<br>
project didn't seem interested in making a generic front-end at the time -<br>
perhaps doing that consulting is their business model?<br>
<br>
Scott found a nice web-platform for small groups to share desktops and audio -<br>
just a webcam and web browser are needed. Think 10 people can join. A few of us<br>
got it working and it worked well, shockingly well. Then it took me a few mins<br>
to fiddle with the settings every time we wanted to meet online. I never figured<br>
out what made it work, just that eventually, around the 5th attempt, it did.<br>
Oh, and if you close the window, you are dropped from the meeting. Seems<br>
strange from a security standpoint that a web browser can capture the entire<br>
screen and share it over the internet - ok, THAT seems like a really bad idea.<br>
It worked under Windows and Linux and OSX.<br>
<br>
There is a huge difference in using a video platform for internet broadcasting<br>
and running a video platform for internet broadcasting, as you know. All sorts<br>
of different considerations involved.<br>
<br>
Anyone interested in helping to find a solution we can standardize on for quick,<br>
face-to-face meetings? When everyone is remote, these things work really well.<br>
Mixing onsite and remote viewers means the remote people are basically watching<br>
only, due to background noise that a group of people creates. During a Q/A<br>
session, remote people are often disconnected, since having a microphone for the<br>
crowd is an extra $100-$300 and requires discipline.<br>
<br>
I have very high hopes for solid, remote, presentations and for 2 people<br>
talking, this has been solved for years for free. More than 5 people and<br>
$30/month solves it, I know this. Some offerings are on the edge of solving it<br>
for free for 20 people, without any google involvement. Hangouts with youtube<br>
capture work for unlimited numbers today.<br>
<br>
Maybe a small group of us can solve this?<br>
<span class="im HOEnZb"><br>
> Check Big Blue Button. they presented at ALE once. Looking at it for our<br>
> presentations thanks in no small part to the recording ability.<br>
><br>
> LGPL Licensed too.<br>
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