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The University of Alabama<br>
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<div style="direction: ltr;" id="divRpF121494"><font face="Tahoma" color="#000000" size="2"><b>From:</b> ale-bounces@ale.org [ale-bounces@ale.org] on behalf of Lightner, Jeff [JLightner@dsservices.com]<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 22, 2016 10:20 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [ale] Linux Foundation quietly drops community representation<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">The best rum is Meyer’s dark from Jamaica. There’s also a couple of good ones from India of all places. </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">I was surprised when I lived in Grenada that I couldn’t get decent rum there. My theory was they ship all the good stuff to the U.S. because that’s where
the money is. The Indian rums were a nice surprise when I was in Mumbai several years back and I found a liquor store in Chattanooga sold one of those a few years back.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">It truly aggravates me when I go to a bar and ask for Meyer’s that they invariable suggest the swill known as Captain Morgan’s. That is a spiced rum so
is a different class altogether.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt; font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"; color:#1F497D">However, to get me to wear latex I’d have to have been doing shots of tequila.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt; font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> ale-bounces@ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jim Kinney<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 22, 2016 11:06 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [ale] Linux Foundation quietly drops community representation</span></p>
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<pre style="margin-right:.5in; margin-bottom:0in; margin-left:.5in; margin-bottom:.0001pt">Coffee? Sorry, but when I think of Puerto Rico, I don't think coffee. I think</pre>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Rum and latex wearing systemd protesters and/or supporters? Coffee would provide some better ability to escape.</p>
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<pre style="margin-right:1.0in; margin-bottom:0in; margin-left:1.0in; margin-bottom:.0001pt">On Thu, Jan 21, 2016, 5:02 PM Jim Kinney <<a href="mailto:jkinney@jimkinney.us" target="_blank">jkinney@jimkinney.us</a>> wrote:</pre>
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<pre style="margin-right:1.5in; margin-bottom:0in; margin-left:1.5in; margin-bottom:.0001pt">So attendees at the next systemd talk need to wear bondage garb.</pre>
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<pre style="margin-right:1.5in; margin-bottom:0in; margin-left:1.5in; margin-bottom:.0001pt">Eww. The expected visual of that is unpleasant. IT attracts a crowd</pre>
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<pre style="margin-right:1.5in; margin-bottom:0in; margin-left:1.5in; margin-bottom:.0001pt">On Thu, 2016-01-21 at 21:50 +0000, Lightner, Jeff wrote:</pre>
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<pre style="margin-right:1.5in; margin-bottom:0in; margin-left:1.5in; margin-bottom:.0001pt">*From:* <a href="mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org" target="_blank">ale-bounces@ale.org</a> [<a href="mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org" target="_blank">mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org</a>] *On Behalf Of *Jim</pre>
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<pre style="margin-right:1.5in; margin-bottom:0in; margin-left:1.5in; margin-bottom:.0001pt">*Sent:* Thursday, January 21, 2016 4:38 PM</pre>
<pre style="margin-right:1.5in; margin-bottom:0in; margin-left:1.5in; margin-bottom:.0001pt">*To:* Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts</pre>
<pre style="margin-right:1.5in; margin-bottom:0in; margin-left:1.5in; margin-bottom:.0001pt">*Subject:* Re: [ale] Linux Foundation quietly drops community</pre>
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<pre style="margin-right:1.5in; margin-bottom:0in; margin-left:1.5in; margin-bottom:.0001pt">"Up until recently, the Linux Foundation allowed the individual</pre>
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