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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I was surprised when I lived in Grenada that I couldn’t get decent rum there. My theory was they ship all the good stuff to the U.S. because that’s where
the money is. The Indian rums were a nice surprise when I was in Mumbai several years back and I found a liquor store in Chattanooga sold one of those a few years back.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">It truly aggravates me when I go to a bar and ask for Meyer’s that they invariable suggest the swill known as Captain Morgan’s. That is a spiced rum so is
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">However, to get me to wear latex I’d have to have been doing shots of tequila.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> ale-bounces@ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jim Kinney<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, January 22, 2016 11:06 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [ale] Linux Foundation quietly drops community representation<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Rum and latex wearing systemd protesters and/or supporters? Coffee would provide some better ability to escape.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<pre style="mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:1.0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">And now there's Puerto Rican coffee all over my phone. Thanks Jim for the<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre style="mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:1.0in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:1.0in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">On Thu, Jan 21, 2016, 5:02 PM Jim Kinney <<a href="mailto:jkinney@jimkinney.us">jkinney@jimkinney.us</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre style="mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:1.5in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:1.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">So attendees at the next systemd talk need to wear bondage garb.<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre style="mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:1.5in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:1.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">On Thu, 2016-01-21 at 21:50 +0000, Lightner, Jeff wrote:<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre style="mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:1.5in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:1.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">is for “daemon” but **they** KNOW it is for “domination”.<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre style="mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:1.5in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:1.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">*From:* <a href="mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org">ale-bounces@ale.org</a> [<a href="mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org">mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org</a>] *On Behalf Of *Jim<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre style="mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:1.5in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:1.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">*Sent:* Thursday, January 21, 2016 4:38 PM<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre style="mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:1.5in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:1.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">The original author worked on both projects.<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre style="mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:1.5in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:1.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">I have not used it nor have I poked at it.<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre style="mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:1.5in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:1.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">On Thu, 2016-01-21 at 16:23 -0500, Steve Litt wrote:<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre style="mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:1.5in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:1.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">Very disappointed with this:<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre style="mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:1.5in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:1.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">"Up until recently, the Linux Foundation allowed the individual<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre style="mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:1.5in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:1.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">corporate companies rather that whole community."<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre style="mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:1.5in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:1.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">This surprises me not one bit. Linux Foundation is organized for big<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre style="mso-margin-top-alt:0in;margin-right:1.5in;margin-bottom:0in;margin-left:1.5in;margin-bottom:.0001pt">built Linux in the first place. Here's a quote from Wikipedia:<o:p></o:p></pre>
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