<html><head></head><body><div>On Fri, 2016-01-22 at 10:55 -0500, DJ-Pfulio wrote:</div><blockquote type="cite"><pre>Coffee? Sorry, but when I think of Puerto Rico, I don't think coffee. I think
RUM! Hummmm. Good to mix?
</pre></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Rum and latex wearing systemd protesters and/or supporters? Coffee would provide some better ability to escape.</div><blockquote type="cite"><pre>
On 01/22/2016 08:32 AM, Jonathan Meek wrote:
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And now there's Puerto Rican coffee all over my phone. Thanks Jim for the
visual imagery there.
On Thu, Jan 21, 2016, 5:02 PM Jim Kinney <<a href="mailto:jkinney@jimkinney.us">jkinney@jimkinney.us</a>> wrote:
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So attendees at the next systemd talk need to wear bondage garb.
Eww. The expected visual of that is unpleasant. IT attracts a crowd
accustomed to body sculpting by beer. Hundreds of chunky "Pulp Fiction"
style latex suited protestors at a systemd talk. Eww.
On Thu, 2016-01-21 at 21:50 +0000, Lightner, Jeff wrote:
Uh-oh – Now the tin foil hat paranoids are going to remind us Systemd is a
plot for world domination. Silly people think the d at the end of Systemd
is for “daemon” but **they** KNOW it is for “domination”.
*From:* <a href="mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org">ale-bounces@ale.org</a> [<a href="mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org">mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org</a>] *On Behalf Of *Jim
Kinney
*Sent:* Thursday, January 21, 2016 4:38 PM
*To:* Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts
*Subject:* Re: [ale] Linux Foundation quietly drops community
representation
While the original gummiboot sources are gone, the code still exists but
was merged into everyone's favorite tool: systemd
<a href="https://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Gummiboot-Is-Dead">https://phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=Gummiboot-Is-Dead</a>
So Linux systems still have a EUFI boot tool but it's part of systemd as
SD-boot. Looks like the entire code base was dumped in and renamed SD-boot.
The original author worked on both projects.
I have not used it nor have I poked at it.
ArchLinux has more info on using it
<a href="https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd-boot">https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/Systemd-boot</a>
Sort of like when serial mice were dropped from the kernel.
On Thu, 2016-01-21 at 16:23 -0500, Steve Litt wrote:
On Thu, 21 Jan 2016 08:26:39 -0600
Preston <<a href="mailto:preston.lists@gmail.com">preston.lists@gmail.com</a>> wrote:
Very disappointed with this:
"Up until recently, the Linux Foundation allowed the individual
members to elect two board members and ensure that the voice of Linux
community is considered at the board meetings. In a shocking change,
the Foundation has erased this clause and decided to benefit the
corporate companies rather that whole community."
<a href="http://fossbytes.com/why-linux-foundations-latest-change-is-a-bad-new-for-open-source/">http://fossbytes.com/why-linux-foundations-latest-change-is-a-bad-new-for-open-source/</a>
Preston
This surprises me not one bit. Linux Foundation is organized for big
corporations, not for the unpaid developers and non-corporate users who
built Linux in the first place. Here's a quote from Wikipedia:
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Its funding comes primarily from its Platinum Members: Fujitsu, HP,
IBM, Intel, NEC, Oracle, Qualcomm, and Samsung and for many years
Hitachi.[23] These nine each having a representative on the Board of
Directors, they hold a majority on the 16-person board.[24]
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What I find quite scary about this is that the Linux Foundation
possesses one of the few all-distro methods to boot with Secure Boot.
The microsecond their major contributors decide an all-distro method to
boot Secure Boot is contrary to their bottom line, none of us have an
all-distro method, unless we find the last version, and fork it.
According to gummiboot Wikipedia page
<a href="https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gummiboot_(software">https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gummiboot_(software</a>) :
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In May 2015, gummiboot was fully integrated into systemd to form its
systemd-boot component that serves as a UEFI boot manager.[2][3]
Following this action, the source code repository of gummiboot was
emptied out in July 2015.
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"The source code repository of gummiboot was emptied out in July 2015."
Makes it just a little harder to fork, doesn't it?
>From where I stand, corporate Linux will foreclose user choice if such
foreclosure enhances the corporation's bottom line.
Unless you own or are paid by a big corporation, Linux Foundation is
not your friend.
SteveT
Steve Litt
January 2016 featured book: Twenty Eight Tales of Troubleshooting
<a href="http://www.troubleshooters.com/28">http://www.troubleshooters.com/28</a>
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James P. Kinney III
Every time you stop a school, you will have to build a jail. What you
gain at one end you lose at the other. It's like feeding a dog on his
own tail. It won't fatten the dog.
- Speech 11/23/1900 Mark Twain
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