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I'm done some interesting work w/ Ansible + Buildbot ->
(Vagrant/AWS). I wouldn't mind talking about the setup.<br>
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<pre wrap="">What are the chances of someone doing a talk on integrating cloud and local
services? March is open.
On Jan 8, 2016 11:20 PM, "Jeremy T. Bouse" <a class="moz-txt-link-rfc2396E" href="mailto:jeremy.bouse@undergrid.net"><jeremy.bouse@undergrid.net></a>
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On 1/8/2016 7:34 PM, Justin Caratzas wrote:
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<pre wrap="">On 1/8/16 7:23 PM, Jeremy T. Bouse wrote:
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<pre wrap="">On 1/8/2016 5:39 PM, James Sumners wrote:
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<pre wrap="">On Fri, Jan 8, 2016 at 1:13 PM, chip <<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:chip.gwyn@gmail.com">chip.gwyn@gmail.com</a>
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Take a look at Vultr.com, can do it there. They have hosting in
Atlanta too. They're basically the economy choopa stuff.
That's looking rather nice. $5/mo for 1TB of transfer and plenty of
resources for my needs.
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<pre wrap="">Not that I have any horse in the race or anything, but as a cloud
service consumer here's a few of my observations...
First off, I have/currently use LInode, AWS and DigitalOcean... Mainly
for one simple reason, all 3 providers have good support with SaltStack
so I don't actually have to log into their UI to do anything to manage
my servers from cradle to grave.
I will say I did look at Vultr and they do have some nice features and
it does appear that Apache libcloud [1] does have support for Vultr
which would make a SaltStack salt-cloud driver realistically possible
though doesn't currently exist. I was really floored by their benchmark
comparisons [2] and how much it was apples and oranges. I loved how they
compare a 768MB/1CPU Vultr system for $5/month against a 3.75GB/2CPU AWS
C3.Large that will run you around $78/month on-demand or between
$29-54/month depending on reserved instance pricing or their 2GB/2CPU
Vultr system for $20/month against the 3.75GB/1CPU AWS M3.Large with run
costs abount $99/month on-demand and
$39-71/month reserved instance. Comparing against an AWS T2 instance
(nano 512MB/1CPU or micro 1GB/1CPU) would have seemed like better
candidate for comparison against the 768MB Vultr and runs closer
($5/month t2.nano or $10/month t2.micro on-demand or $2-4/month t2.nano
or $6-7/month t2.micro reserved instance). Likewise a t2.small or
t2.medium would have been better comparisons for the 2GB Vultr. It
looked like they went out of their way to pick the most expensive option
to compare so their numbers looked better. I found a blog [3] that
seemed to give a better comparison in fact.
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<pre wrap="">Slight disagreement, I believe the t2.* are terrible machines to
benchmark, given the cpu bursting budget. m3/4.mediums would have been
the better comparison, the Cs are a bit nuts w/ pricing.
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<pre wrap="">Yes, the t2 instances are burstable but they are better than the older
generate t1 instances. If you're comparing cost however the t2 would be
a better comparison as the specs are closer as is the cost. When you're
comparing a $5 instance to a $78 instance your "Performance per dollar"
is obviously not going to be comparable. The C3 instances are more CPU
optimized instances, the M3 and M4 are more general purpose with
balanced CPU & memory with the M3 being SSD-based instances which is
really the only comparison against DO or Vultr with the minimum in the
series being the m3.medium which has 1 CPU and 3.75GB RAM and 4GB SSD.
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<pre wrap="">How do you like libcloud? I've been meaning to check it out.
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<pre wrap="">I haven't worked with it directly myself. Many of the salt-cloud
provider drivers are written utilizing it as it provides a quick method
to do so. There are still many drivers that have libcloud support
available but still don't utilize it. In most of the cases the drivers
were written prior to libcloud support and hasn't been any real need to
re-write them yet. I'm currently working with another cloud provider
that doesn't have libcloud support so we're having to do a lot more of
the work going off API documentation from the provider as the only API
library we've been able to find for it is not fully up to the task.
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<pre wrap="">Otherwise the pricing between DO and Vultr doesn't appear to really be
all that difference comparing plans either. That said I may have to
check out Vultr and see if I can't get the salt-cloud driver working.
Cost being low enough I wouldn't mind throwing some money at it to get
another cloud provider option made available to me. I like having the
ability to launch and deploy my hosts to any SaltStack supported cloud
provider for a DR/BC perspective and keeps me from being locked into any
one provider. Then again I'm not worried about uploading custom ISO
images and if I were I'd simply build and deploy those to AWS where I
could easily make my own AMI offline and knowing how to work AWS to be
cost comparative wouldn't bother me.
1. <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://libcloud.readthedocs.org/en/latest/compute/drivers/vultr.html">http://libcloud.readthedocs.org/en/latest/compute/drivers/vultr.html</a>
2. <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="https://www.vultr.com/benchmarks/">https://www.vultr.com/benchmarks/</a>
3. <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://blog.due.io/2014/linode-digitalocean-and-vultr-comparison/">http://blog.due.io/2014/linode-digitalocean-and-vultr-comparison/</a>
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