<html><head></head><body>By the time windows 3.1 came around os/2 had already lost the battle. Windows 3.0 wasn't slow on 4 mb of RAM. OS/2, required 8 mb of RAM to run as well. At the time, 8 mb of RAM in a system added $650 to the cost. I know this because I paid it.<br>
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BTW, I was part of Team os/2 and an IBM subcontractor. Version 1.x of OS/2 wasn't a joke but it wasn't very useful either. Version 2 of OS/2 was solid but slow. Version 2.1 added a little speed but not enough. By warp v3, they made it able to install into 4 MB of RAM but it was still significantly slower than MS Windows on 4mb systems. With 8 megabytes of RAM warp was fantastic, but few pcs were shipping w/ 8mb ram.<br>
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Recall these were the days of 16 bit programs and os/2 was all 32 bit. For programmers, there is pain in changing from 16 bit to 32 bit to 64 bit.<br>
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By 1994 I already picked up UNIX/ Linux but still ran OS/2 for a desktop. Os/2 was by far the best software development environment for MS DOS.<br>
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In August 1995, windows 95 truly did change the world, for pcs. I remember clearly the leap forward in user interface design, because we were a reference site where I worked. <br>
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Should also say, that I dictated this reply through Android.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 10 December 2015 12:12:48 GMT-05:00, Sean Kilpatrick <kilpatms@gmail.com> wrote:<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;">
<pre class="k9mail">I think I can speak to this a little bit.<br /><br />I left Windows with 3.1 and ran to OS/2, which at the time was miles<br />ahead, technically, of Windows. I was still with OS/2 when I moved to<br />Atlanta in 1998 and by that time the IBM OS actually had speech<br />recognition working along with many other features that Windows kept<br />advertising -- but not delivering.<br /><br />I left OS/2 for Linux when IBM basically ended support for OS/2.<br /><br />The main reason IBM could not compete with Bill Gates when offering an<br />operating system for personal computers had nothing to do with the OS<br />itself and EVERYTHING to do with corporate understanding of how to<br />market to the personal computer market. Basically IBM marketers had no<br />clue. They only understood Big Iron. At every turn Microsoft clobbered<br />IBM with advertising and paid shills. Microsoft would wildly claim that<br />new features were coming with the next release
(features that OS/2 had<br />offered for months if not years) and then not deliver as promised.<br /><br />I do not understand the charge that OS/2 required beefier equipment than<br />Windows. I NEVER owned a computer with the latest and greatest CPU and<br />maximum memory and OS/2 ran just fine on the second or third rate<br />equipment I could afford.<br /><br />Sean<br /><br /><hr /><br /><br /><br />On Thu, 2015-12-10 at 10:50 -0500, DjPfulio wrote:<br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #729fcf; padding-left: 1ex;"> But most people don't know these facts. To them, Bill Gates created the PC and Bill Gates created the Internet.<br /> <br /> I believe Windows beat oS/2 because the hardware requirements for Windows were much lighter than those required for os/2. <br /> Don't forget that Windows was not popular until version 3.0 and os/2 was not useful until version 2.1.<br /> <br /> <br /> On 10 December 2015 09:31:22
GMT-05:00, "Lightner, Jeff" <JLightner@dsservices.com> wrote:<br /><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 1ex 0.8ex; border-left: 1px solid #ad7fa8; padding-left: 1ex;">Bill didn’t “invent” anything including DOS or Windows. He bought DOS<br />from someone else to resell to IBM. Windows was the result of IBM and<br />Microsoft starting a project to do GUI to compete with Apple (who also<br />didn’t invent GUI – Xerox did). IBM and Microsoft had a parting of<br />the ways with lawsuits and recriminations but the end results were IBM<br />did OS/2 and MS did Windows. Since Windows like DOS ran on multiple<br />vendors’ PCs it took off better than OS/2.<br /><br />Maybe Bill would be a good candidate at that – for years people have<br />said IE stands for Internet Exploder. :-)<br /><br /><br /><br />From: ale-bounces@ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org] On Behalf Of<br />Brian Stanaland<br />Sent: Thursday, December 10, 2015 9:06 AM<br
/>To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts<br />Subject: Re: [ale] Fwd: Donald Trump thinks he can call Bill Gates to<br />"close up" the internet<br /><br />Keep in mind that, for a lot of people, Bill invented computers. Their<br />first (only?) computer experience is with Windows. Bill invented<br />Windows. Ergo, Bill invented computers.<br /><br />On Wed, Dec 9, 2015 at 8:58 PM, Jeff Hubbs<br /><jhubbslist@att.net<mailto:jhubbslist@att.net>> wrote:<br />It's an odd choice on more than one level. Of the US' "tech titans,"<br />isn't Gates the one who never quite "got" the Internet when he could<br />have leveraged it the most?<br /><br /><br />On 12/9/15 9:36 AM, Pete Hardie wrote:<br />I chuckled at the mention of Gates as well.....<br /><br />On Wed, Dec 9, 2015 at 9:33 AM, Charles Shapiro<br /><hooterpincher@gmail.com<mailto:hooterpincher@gmail.com>> wrote:<br />This made me laugh out loud. Now I _have_ to vote for him.<br /><br />Donald Trump thinks he can call
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