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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">+1<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D"><o:p> </o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The next change in licensing will be to charge you per core (or worse virtual cores) as opposed to per socket and Systemd isn’t required for that.
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">No matter how things change the folks that want to rob you with egregious entitlement pricing (e.g. Oracle) will find a model that allows them to do so (and
often enough, one that you’ll never figure out how to be in compliance with so every audit they do will find a way that you owe them more money).
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">One of these days they’ll get around to the horrible idea built into real estate leases where they charge you for various “base” costs then add on a little
for everything with set minimums like: <o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Base license = # of sockets (minimum 4 even if you only have 1)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">+Additional cost = # of cores (minimum 8 per socket even if you only have 2 per)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">+Additional cost = Quantity of memory installed (minimum 24 TB)<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">+Additional cost = # of guests<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">+Additional cost = # of vcores<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">+Additional cost = Quantity of memory on each guest<o:p></o:p></span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Total = CHACHING!<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">The idea therefore is to try to stay away from the things that aren’t FOSS because even when they want to charge you for “subscriptions” and “support” you have
to agree to pay them rather than being forced to do to validate your “licenses”.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> ale-bounces@ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jim Kinney<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Tuesday, November 17, 2015 12:32 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [ale] Systemd and cygwin<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, 2015-11-17 at 09:20 -0800, Alex Carver wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<pre>This bit just popped up on the cygwin mailing list recently (the "same<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>thing" is referring to the Microsoft and Apple One user, one license<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>model for programs that were traditionally single machine operations<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>like word processing instead of shared server applications that now use<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>seats.)<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre>" The recent push to convert linux to use systemd -- is all about<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>reducing the functionality of linux to require the same thing -- so<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>1 system monitor (systemd) can keep track of how many users are<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>using "licensed seats" --- so vendors can force you to pay 10-100<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>times for the same program. It's also about locking down linux so<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>that you can't easily your own programs to get around such licensing<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>mechanisms (you'd have to "jailbreak" your computer -- as is done<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>with smartphones these days, to allow you to run what you want on<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>your own computer)."<o:p></o:p></pre>
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<p class="MsoNormal">????? Someone on cygwin had a paranoid thought and tried to make a political statement. Since we have the source code for all of this stuff, please find the lines that will make us have to pay license fees to run multiple cores, containers,
VM's, etc.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I call total BS on this.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<pre>_______________________________________________<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>Ale mailing list<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><a href="mailto:Ale@ale.org">Ale@ale.org</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><a href="http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale">http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo/ale</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>See JOBS, ANNOUNCE and SCHOOLS lists at<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><a href="http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo">http://mail.ale.org/mailman/listinfo</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
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<pre>-- <o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>James P. Kinney III<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre>Every time you stop a school, you will have to build a jail. What you<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>gain at one end you lose at the other. It's like feeding a dog on his<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>own tail. It won't fatten the dog.<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre>- Speech 11/23/1900 Mark Twain<o:p></o:p></pre>
<pre><o:p> </o:p></pre>
<pre><a href="http://heretothereideas.blogspot.com/">http://heretothereideas.blogspot.com/</a><o:p></o:p></pre>
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