<html><body><div style="font-family: arial, helvetica, sans-serif; font-size: 12pt; color: #000000"><div><br></div><div><br></div><hr id="zwchr" data-marker="__DIVIDER__"><div data-marker="__HEADERS__"><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid #1010FF; margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px; color: #000; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" data-mce-style="border-left: 2px solid #1010FF; margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px; color: #000; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;"><b>From: </b>"Steve Litt" <slitt@troubleshooters.com><br><b>To: </b>ale@ale.org<br><b>Sent: </b>Friday, September 11, 2015 11:11:13 PM<br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [ale] [Fwd: Advertising on ale.org] - OT MS vs Apple vs Linux/UNIX<br></blockquote></div><div data-marker="__QUOTED_TEXT__"><blockquote style="border-left: 2px solid #1010FF; margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px; color: #000; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;" data-mce-style="border-left: 2px solid #1010FF; margin-left: 5px; padding-left: 5px; color: #000; font-weight: normal; font-style: normal; text-decoration: none; font-family: Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif; font-size: 12pt;">On Thu, 10 Sep 2015 17:19:33 +0000<br>"Lightner, Jeff" <JLightner@dsservices.com> wrote:<br><br>> Well when major distros like the ones you've listed commit to not use<br>> it this is clearly the death knell for systemd. :p<br>> <br>> Seriously - learn to love systemd - it is NOT the great evil people<br>> that haven't tried it suggest it is.<br><br>This response is *precisely* what I was talking about. With any other<br>software, those who don't like it are told "fine, if you don't like<br>Vim, use Emacs". But here, we're told "learn to love it", as if<br>systemd's world domination is inevitable, and refusal to accept that<br>conclusion is a personal deficit.<br><br>If no architectural reason existed to shun systemd, the preceding<br>attitude would be more than enough.<br><br>When a salesman implies that I have no choice, I walk away. It's the<br>only prudent way to handle the situation, to prevent the salesman's<br>words from becoming a self-fulfilling prophecy.<br><br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>One why I deal with user issues is to provide functionality that a user knows while increasing their options.</div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div>rc.local is an example where I would have maintained support for a script that is executed at the end of every other script. </div><div>Even if there is a way to do this in systemd after writing a script with certain options I would have created this for the user and put it in the distro as /etc/rc.local or /etc/rc.local is a symlink to the systemd script. This eases the transistion of the user into something knew with familiarity.</div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div><div><br data-mce-bogus="1"></div></div></div></body></html>