<p dir="ltr">This isn't about TV. It's about internet access. TV is just another digital stream on the internet.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mar 8, 2015 12:19 PM, "Damon L. Chesser" <<a href="mailto:damon@damtek.com">damon@damtek.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Like the other poster, I don't see a monopoly. I jump from comcast
to AT@T as it suites me. I could go dish if I want. You can go
digital TV over the air with a very minimal investment for 100% free
delivery. Of course, I don't subscribe to ANYBODIES tv content,
only Internet service. But seeing as how you can watch so much
junk on the Internet, via smart TVs, via providers like Crackle,
HBO, Hulu, etc, where is the monopoly?<br>
<br>
Does not Comcast have a right to say who will use their circuit and
for how much? And your contract with Hulu has nothing to do with
Hulo's contract with Comcast. Don't like them? Dump them. Here is
a news flash: Cable TV is a dying bread as more and more people cut
the wire.<br>
<br>
As more and more people cut the wire, the costs keep getting added
to the less and less and the profits are actually rising with a
decreasing subscriber base. It's crazy. smaller and smaller groups
say they "NEED" the tv cable and there is no way around it. News
flash: stop watching cable TV and the need for paying for less goes
away. NO federal law required. No dualopoly, or "open market"
required. People just are not using cable any more and the market
is going away. <br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-03-19/u-s-pay-tv-subscriptions-fall-for-first-time-as-streaming-gains" target="_blank">http://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2014-03-19/u-s-pay-tv-subscriptions-fall-for-first-time-as-streaming-gains</a><br>
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and I totally fail to see how separating out "content providers"
from "creators" would do anything other than make it more expensive
to "create content". <br>
<br>
If you don't like them, don't pay for them. That is what I do and
it is working quite well, for me. I only pay for Internet service
and I jump ship at the tiniest provocation on to the next provider.<br>
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<div>On 03/08/2015 10:57 AM, Pete Hardie
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<div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Comcast
being ISP and content creator is part of the problem. They
will prioritize their content over someone else's ,and since
they have a monopoly on delivery, it is de facto unfair<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Mar 8, 2015 at 10:47 AM, Byron
Jeff <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:byronjeff@mail.clayton.edu" target="_blank">byronjeff@mail.clayton.edu</a>></span>
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<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">On Sun,
Mar 08, 2015 at 07:41:27AM -0400, DJ-Pfulio wrote:<br>
> I lived in Houston before moving here - not in a
baby-bell area. My phone was<br>
> $11/month. Moved to Smyrna - BellSouth - $26/month.<br>
><br>
> 'nuff said.<br>
><br>
<br>
Standard land line. How quaint!<br>
<br>
VOIP and Google Voice has deregulated this market already. I
have a<br>
Callcentric DID with E911 service for $4.50 a month.
Incoming calls routed<br>
in via GV. By virtualizing my home number, I never have to
worry about that<br>
number being tied to a particular provider ever again. If I
ever give up my<br>
AT&T cell service, I'll do exactly the same with my cell
number.<br>
<br>
> Don't get me started about power issues where I lived
in Houston.<br>
><br>
> Comcast needs to be broken up, but not in the same way
that AT*T was. More like<br>
> how natural gas has been deregulated in Georgia.<br>
<br>
There isn't a direct correlation between the two. The
primary difference is<br>
the fact that natural gas is exactly the same no matter
who's marketing it.<br>
However with digital content, each provider offers different
content that<br>
has to be delivered. Comcast has comcast only content that
neither Charter,<br>
AT&T, or Dish offers. So instead of GNG, which can
centralize all gas<br>
delivery operations for every marketer using the same
infrastructure, in<br>
your proposed scenario each provider would have to have a
connection to the<br>
head end of the delivery provider and the delivery provider
would have to<br>
carry enough bandwidth to deliver every content providers
content at the<br>
same time.<br>
<br>
Don't you think there will be a cost attached to that? One
of the reasons I<br>
finally turned off my natural gas service was the fact that
GNG was<br>
charging me nearly $40/month simply for the priviledge of
providing gas to<br>
my meter. No matter if it's 1 therm or 100, the base
delivery and tax was a<br>
$40+ base. Can you imagine how much a centralized content
delivery provider<br>
would charge simply for access?<br>
<br>
How exactly is the market closed? Right now I can get
Comcast (which I<br>
would never do, long story), AT&T UVerse, Dish, and
DirectTV. In fact in<br>
the last 5 years I've had service with each of the above and
except for<br>
Dish I've kicked each and every one of them to the curb at
one point in<br>
time or another. There's nothing to preclude Verizon or
Google from<br>
entering the fray.<br>
<br>
Comparing digital content delivery to natural gas
deregulation is an apples<br>
to gorillas argument, seems to me.<br>
<br>
BAJ<br>
<br>
><br>
><br>
> On 03/07/2015 04:24 PM, Jim Lynch wrote:<br>
> > The Judge made my life harder. Before his ruling,
I picked up the phone and<br>
> > called AT&T when the network wasn't working.
It got fixed. Afterwards, I<br>
> > called AT&T and after a bit, they told me it
wasn't their problem, so I called<br>
> > Racal Milgo and guess what? It wasn't their
problem either. It took 2x 3x<br>
> > maybe 4x the amount of time to get the network
back.<br>
> ><br>
> > Progress...<br>
> > On 03/07/2015 04:14 PM, James Taylor wrote:<br>
> >> Now you're making us all feel old....<br>
> >> -jt<br>
> ><br>
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