<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">I always wonder if a mesh network via home wifi could work for email/messaging traffic, although it does not solve for web access or data download/streaming<br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jan 30, 2015 at 12:24 PM, Jim Kinney <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jim.kinney@gmail.com" target="_blank">jim.kinney@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><p dir="ltr">The first pain point is access to poles or right of way for buried fiber. Serious limits to wireless bandwidth. Long-haul open air laser is disrupted by rain, leaves, new billboards, etc. At some point, connection to actual Internet has to happen and that is $$$$painpoint$$$$ #2</p>
<p dir="ltr">My neighborhood had conduit in place and ready for fiber pull. The cost of termination and splitting at the driveway and head end hardware has to be amortized over the finance period with the hope it's paid of before it's totally obsolete and paying users move on.</p>
<p dir="ltr">The last mile providers are in a death spiral and demand far exceeds financial incentive to upgrade. Any talk of upgrades forced by legislation makes some very loud people very upset.</p>
<p dir="ltr">I can see a community/hacker space run project to devise slow speed or emergency comms for ordinary users.</p><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5">
<div class="gmail_quote">On Jan 30, 2015 12:10 PM, "Michael Trausch" <<a href="mailto:mike@trausch.us" target="_blank">mike@trausch.us</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">This group surprises me.<br>
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It shouldn't be hard to build an Internet where we little peoples peer with each other. Maybe not able to preserve 1 GBPS everywhere, but I know this: I will find a way out of the Comcast network. GF won't hit my area. That's OK, though.<br>
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We can build the User Controlled Network.<br>
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After all it is the only answer to the question and problem of network neutrality: prohibit The Man from controlling the network!<br>
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> On Jan 30, 2015, at 9:04 AM, DJ-Pfulio <<a href="mailto:djpfulio@jdpfu.com" target="_blank">djpfulio@jdpfu.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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>> On 01/30/2015 08:41 AM, Dylan Northrup wrote:<br>
>> Only for customers for whom Google is an option. . . for me in Marietta,<br>
>> Comcast and AT&T are my only options (and DSL isn't really an option). Google<br>
>> Fiber won't be an option for quite a while, if ever. I can only hope when<br>
>> Comcast modifies their plans to respond to Google Fiber in the areas it's<br>
>> available those modifications will be effective across all municipalities in<br>
>> the Atlanta area.<br>
><br>
> Let's be serious. Google Fibre won't be an option for most of the people in the<br>
> metro area for years. Remember how long ago they announced for Austin? They<br>
> just started taking real signups last Oct. If enough of a neighborhood doesn't<br>
> sign up, they don't get it. Google is cherry picking neighborhoods. I think<br>
> this is more about embarrassing other providers into providing higher speed than<br>
> anything else - well - besides having router access to tracking data.<br>
><br>
> AT&T, Comcast and Cox have 18 months to upgrade the areas where GF will be<br>
> installed to prevent subscriber losses. And that is exactly what they've done in<br>
> Austin. Places on the list for GF magically got<br>
> <a href="http://kxan.com/2014/11/24/google-fiber-plans-moving-forward/" target="_blank">http://kxan.com/2014/11/24/google-fiber-plans-moving-forward/</a> higher speeds from<br>
> 3 providers and reduced prices. None of my friends in Austin can get GF and<br>
> they aren't in areas likely to see it for yrs though they do live inside the<br>
> city limits. No TWC bandwidth change for them, at least not yet.<br>
><br>
> In short, hope for the best, but don't hold your breath. ;(<br>
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