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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 1/5/15 9:57 AM, Lightner, Jeff
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of course you are being interviewed by companies that
already have the cert mill admins and realize they aren’t
working out. I’d be surprised if many organizations were
really relying on that for major systems – experience has
always trumped certification for technical jobs.</span></p>
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"Aren't working out" is relative. If things aren't exploding week in
and week out, that's usually good enough. And if things do explode
routinely but there are still people to type the magic commands to
restart the fiddly bits, then the explosions can be A-OK - sometimes
for years.<br>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I’ve
gotten inquiries from headhunters for jobs in the 90-100 K
range for admins as recently as this past week.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org">ale-bounces@ale.org</a> [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org">mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org</a>]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jeff Hubbs<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, January 04, 2015 11:15 PM<br>
<b>To:</b> Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [ale] Linux admin position salary
survey<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I call BS on indeed.com's numbers.
Because of the Microsoftization of run-of-the-mill Linux
usage and the wide human resource pipeline feeding into it,
jobs like those are being taken over by $40-50K/year guys
coming out of the cert mills and the cloud racket means that
fewer and fewer people will ever rack-n'-stack again. It's
very difficult to command six figures when you can't
differentiate yourself from folks making half that or even
less when the work can be readily offshored.<br>
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On 1/4/15 8:48 PM, Sergio Chaves wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Sun, Jan 4, 2015 at 10:01 AM,
James Sumners <<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:james.sumners@gmail.com" target="_blank">james.sumners@gmail.com</a>>
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<p class="MsoNormal">I need to get an idea of what my
position pays out in the real world, or even at most
metro Atlanta universities. I'm hoping you guys can
help me out with that. Here's a short list of my
duties:
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<p class="MsoNormal">* Spec new systems that will run
RHEL<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">* Install and maintain RHEL on
all Linux based systems<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">* Setup and administer RH
Satellite Server<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">* Manage SSL termination and
general load balancing via HAProxy (with a failover
system)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">* Setup and manage the DNS
servers (authoritative and recursive)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">* Setup and maintain DHCPD
servers<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">* Keep abreast of security
concerns and patches on all RHEL systems<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">* Maintain backups of all
critical RHEL systems<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">* Resolve off-hour business
impacting issues (e.g. DHCPD went bye-bye have to
restart it)<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">* Advise purchases for new
infrastructure devices/products<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Plus all of the little details
you guys know come with all of that. There's more,
but that is the heart of the position. The number of
systems involved is currently around 50 (mix of
production and test); it's only going to grow as
time goes on.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">So, if you were hiring for such a
position, in the metro Atlanta area, what would you
expect to pay someone? Or if you're in such a
position, and don't mind sharing a ballpark figure
(off list if you like), what is your salary?<span
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="color:#888888">James
Sumners<br>
<a moz-do-not-send="true"
href="http://james.roomfullofmirrors.com/"
target="_blank">http://james.roomfullofmirrors.com/</a><br>
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"All governments suffer a recurring problem:
Power attracts pathological personalities. It is
not that power corrupts but that it is magnetic
to the corruptible. Such people have a tendency
to become drunk on violence, a condition to
which they are quickly addicted."<br>
<br>
Missionaria Protectiva, Text QIV (decto)<br>
CH:D 59</span><o:p></o:p></p>
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