<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div>Titles can be very deceptive. I have worked in a place where you couldn't be a network manager if you didn't manage people, too. In another, a lead compliance analyst didn't need any followers. One contract I had to develop network infrastructure had a title of professor emeritus, which seemed ridiculously exalted for a network architect. <br><br>Sent from my iPhone</div><div><br>On Dec 23, 2014, at 10:46 AM, Pete Hardie <<a href="mailto:pete.hardie@gmail.com">pete.hardie@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">An amusing factor in titles I've seen in online job postings - a "Senior" software developer needs 2-5 years of experience<br><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 9:33 AM, Lightner, Jeff <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:JLightner@dsservices.com" target="_blank">JLightner@dsservices.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">My title has been a “Senior” at most of my jobs. The only time I was called “Principal” was when the parent company was British so it seemed to me that “Principal”
meant top level in the role for them like “Senior” does in US. <u></u><u></u></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Of course titles sometimes don’t really tell you much. At a prior job I was “Operating Systems Programmer II” then “III” and finally “Consultant”. The “III”
was original senior most level and the “Consultant” was a bump up from that just because it allowed for a higher pay scale – my work didn’t actually change. Note that in none of those roles was I actually a “programmer” or developer. (Though of course
Admins do a fair amount of script “coding” it isn’t really the main point in the job.) I think the titles were hold overs from the old mainframe only nature of that particular company.
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<b>To:</b> Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [ale] Titles<u></u><u></u></span></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal" style="margin-bottom:12.0pt">Or you could just go here ( <a href="http://siliconvalleyjobtitlegenerator.tumblr.com/" target="_blank">
http://siliconvalleyjobtitlegenerator.tumblr.com/</a> ).<u></u><u></u></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Dec 23, 2014 at 8:24 AM, Leam Hall <<a href="mailto:leamhall@gmail.com" target="_blank">leamhall@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">On 12/23/14 08:00, Brandon Colbert wrote:<u></u><u></u></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks for the feedback.<u></u><u></u></p>
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The main thing to ask is "did the person who wrote the title really understand the job?" In some places that's a "yes", in other places no. If it's a resume title then it gives you a lead to discuss your strengths and accomplishments.<br>
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A recruiter called me about an Oracle DB/Solaris support job. The hiring manager really needed someone to lead the growth of the entire Unix infrastructure. Same job, two very different perspectives.<br>
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If this is for a resume, define the job you want and show how you've been working towards that for some time. Everything on my resume is true, but it's not everything I've done. My resume does show those things that demonstrate the type of work I really want
to do. I don't talk about supporting HP/UX or SCO because I don't want to do that anymore.<br>
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For folks transitioning into a new area, the same applies. Find the best "industry standard" you can for the role. Highlight what your background already shows and find ways to build the skills you don't have. This is a great time to help with an Open Source
project; you build skills, resume bullets, and the community.<span style="color:#888888"><br>
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<span>Leam</span><br>
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