<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Dec 3, 2014 at 12:07 PM, Solomon Peachy <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:pizza@shaftnet.org" target="_blank">pizza@shaftnet.org</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class="">On Wed, Dec 03, 2014 at 11:50:50AM -0500, James Sumners wrote:<br>
> But I'm going to side with the kernel developers in regard to systemd. The<br>
> developers of systemd have a history of dumping projects no one asked for<br>
> on the community and then not supporting them,<br>
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</span>[citation needed]<br>
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* A list of these "dumped" projects<br>
* A list of these "unsupported" projects<br></blockquote><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex">> ignoring valid bug reports,<br>
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[citation needed]<br>
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(I suspect there is considerable disagreement what constitutes "validity")<br>
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> or just plain abandoning them.<br>
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</span>[citation needed]<br>
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Are you seriously saying that once someone writes some software,<br>
they are forever obliged to continue to support it?<br>
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> But they don't do most of that before they've already managed to get<br>
> the project to be a major dependency of other projects.<br>
<br></span></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Uh, hello, systemd and pulseaudio? GNOME? Do these ring a bell?</div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left-width:1px;border-left-color:rgb(204,204,204);border-left-style:solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class="">
</span>Again, [citation needed]<br>
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- Solomon<br></font></span></blockquote><div><br></div><div><a href="http://cgit.freedesktop.org/pulseaudio/pulseaudio/">http://cgit.freedesktop.org/pulseaudio/pulseaudio/</a> -- Creator doesn't seem to have committed in at least 5 years on this thing no one wanted.</div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://plus.google.com/+TheodoreTso/posts/4W6rrMMvhWU">https://plus.google.com/+TheodoreTso/posts/4W6rrMMvhWU</a><br></div><div><br></div><div><a href="https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=76935">https://bugs.freedesktop.org/show_bug.cgi?id=76935</a> -> <a href="http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTY1MzA">http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=MTY1MzA</a><br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div><br></div>-- <br><div class="gmail_signature">James Sumners<br><a href="http://james.roomfullofmirrors.com/">http://james.roomfullofmirrors.com/</a><br><br>"All governments suffer a recurring problem: Power attracts pathological personalities. It is not that power corrupts but that it is magnetic to the corruptible. Such people have a tendency to become drunk on violence, a condition to which they are quickly addicted."<br><br>Missionaria Protectiva, Text QIV (decto)<br>CH:D 59</div>
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