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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">You might want to check out Microcenter’s web site. They do refurbs on old systems AND install a clean (assuming any M$ product can be considered “clean”)
OS on them. I picked up a Dell laptop with Win 7 on it earlier this year for $100. I think it was someone on this list that made the suggestion about it. Just remember to find the one you want on the web site and specifically ask for that when you go
in as it isn’t something they have sitting out to pick up.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> ale-bounces@ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Charles Shapiro<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Friday, October 17, 2014 8:50 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts - Yes! We run Linux!<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [ale] Belay that, OT, jre7u71 winXP won't install/update<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p>I've had pretty good luck with a couple of Lenovo machines, but the very first thing I do with them is fdisk + install gnu/linux..<o:p></o:p></p>
<p>--CHS<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Oct 17, 2014 8:34 AM, "David Millians" <<a href="mailto:millia@panix.com">millia@panix.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">On 10/17/2014 2:35 AM, Ken Cochran wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">Well, I don't realy think XP {shrug}, but CE is a possibility.<br>
OTOH, with the exception of a pretty simple OBD scanner for<br>
OSX, I've never seen a computer-based car scanner, that was<br>
not deployed on (what appears to be *stock*) XP.<o:p></o:p></p>
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Car stuff is like educational software: they wrote it once, for a particular box. Why would they need to update it?<o:p></o:p></p>
<p class="MsoNormal">I remember<br>
reading here that Sony and Toshiba are to be avoided due to<br>
driver support flakiness. (Always heard Toshiba was 'bout<br>
the last remaining "good" one.)<o:p></o:p></p>
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Interesting. I rank things like this, based on personal experience:<br>
Dell<br>
Toshiba<br>
Asus<br>
Acer (really, one of you change your name.)<br>
Compaq/HP<br>
<br>
I put it as compaq/hp because I had experience with some Compaq Craptops that have made me permanently reluctant to use them. Current work portable is an HP, and it reminds me that even though the hardware may be good, it's assembled in a way that makes it
much harder to repair.<br>
<br>
Dell is like an old mid-60s Mustang with a mini-V8: easy to repair and lots of parts available. Not as fancy as others, but I don't like fancy.<br>
Toshiba is like a cheaper mid-60s car. I had no bad experiences.<br>
Asus are a little better than Acer. The acers are fine for the price.<br>
<br>
I've no long term experience with Thinkpad in the past decade, but I can't argue with the dozens of positive reviews I have read. They're usually just that bit too expensive for schools, alas.<br>
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Sony. Pffft.<br>
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Really, pfffft. Go away, Sony,<br>
David<br>
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