<div dir="ltr"><div>I got remmina rpm compiled for CentOS7 and it "JustWorks". No stability issues (yet). I really only had them when I had 10+ tabs open on CentOS 6.3-6.4. I've not had cause to have more 3 so far. <br><br></div>The only thing x2go really has in it's corner is it's really, really easy to setup the remote end of the NX session.<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 1, 2014 at 12:56 PM, Michael H. Warfield <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mhw@wittsend.com" target="_blank">mhw@wittsend.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><span class="">On Wed, 2014-10-01 at 10:45 -0400, JD wrote:<br>
> So ... didn't really want to write this ... google has most of this data and<br>
> 10 minutes installing and running x2go would let you see it for yourself ...<br>
<br>
</span>I've played with it in the past. The problem is that I have to support<br>
multiple simultaneous sessions, across multiple remote sites, some of<br>
which are RDP (remote Windblows boxen), some of which can be VNC<br>
(embedded devices and remote installs), and a lot of which are NX. I<br>
like having the one client to rule them all.<br>
<br>
Right now, I need a decent server I can run on Android and connect to<br>
from outside a NAT. Looking like a reverse VNC connection may be my<br>
best bet there but I'm trying to get IPv6 to this particular site<br>
(remote support up in Michigan from down here in Georgia - field trips<br>
are not an option), which I know Android will support, and see what I<br>
can get for a remote control option (hell, the bad guys can do it with<br>
their Android RATs, there's got to a way).<br>
<span class=""><br>
> Tried remmina a year ago - meh. Didn't see the point. Either I'm on the LAN<br>
> and don't really need a remote desktop client (X/Windows works) or I'm far<br>
> away and need 1 session to get me back to the LAN, from there, remote X works<br>
> through x2go/NX fine.<br>
<br>
</span>Yeah, see, different requirements. For a single session client, I'm<br>
sure it's just fine. For what I need, a full featured multiprotocol<br>
client fits the bill.<br>
<span class=""><br>
> x2go is my replacement for FreeNX (and whatever NX client is used - there are<br>
> many).<br>
<br>
</span>I gave up on nxclient a long time ago. Remmina was much more stable.<br>
Plus I hated having 4 different remote desktop clients side by side at<br>
the same time.<br>
<div><div class="h5"><br>
> x2go has clients and servers for all the popular computing platforms that<br>
> support X/Windows. Sadly, that does not include Android currently. That is<br>
> the only real issue. A $200 netbook is a nice replacement for a<br>
> tablet+keyboard - drop whatever Linux desktop you like and be happy.<br>
><br>
> No need to use NoMachine's closed-code, if you don't want. I did use their<br>
> v3.5.x clients on both Windows and Linux. The v4.x client never worked for me,<br>
> but I haven't tried in a while either. Seemed they wanted to make it easier to<br>
> work/discovery with THEIR servers ... meh.<br>
><br>
> Setup of x2go server on Ubuntu is easier than FreeNX. It is just aptitude<br>
> install. No rebuilding server-keys needed (or is everyone else using the<br>
> commonly-known-to-everyone FreeNX keys?). That is a plus and a minus.<br>
><br>
> x2go client is also a nominal install. On UNIX platforms, it will use existing<br>
> ssh keys. No special effort needed. I haven't bothered to get the keys<br>
> working on Windows - wouldn't use that OS on the internet anyway. Do use x2go<br>
> Windows client daily, from inside the LAN. On the LAN, remote video is better<br>
> than any other free remote desktop tool that I've seen - including SPICE.<br>
> Audio works too. Audio works over the internet too.<br>
><br>
> x2go over the internet is nice. Haven't tested it overseas since switching,<br>
> but NX was tested extensively and I don't see any reason that x2go wouldn't be<br>
> slightly better.<br>
><br>
> I dumped FreeNX after Ubutu 12.04 due to support reasons. There is a FreeNX<br>
> beta for 14.04 (don't bother with non-LTS releases), but it had some issues<br>
> for me at the time. x2go HAD server-side CPU utilization issues due to an ssh<br>
> bug. Be certain to get the newer Windows clients (August 2014) to avoid this.<br>
> I saw spikes to 100% CPU every 5 seconds on the server side. Since this was on<br>
> a shared VM server machine, the other VMs were being impacted negatively. It<br>
> was bad.<br>
><br>
> x2go has downsides<br>
> * I dislike that only 1 session seems possible at a time. OTOH, connecting to<br>
> 1 desktop, then using it to connect to others on the same LAN works nicely<br>
> (even Windows via rdesktop/RDP).<br>
> * the fact that a miscofigured/buggy client can impact the server bothers me.<br>
> * font support seems to be an afterthought. It mostly just works on Linux, but<br>
> Windows terminals sometimes don't resize fonts as expected. Sometimes they do<br>
> - haven't needed to worry about this much.<br>
> * DO NOT USE UNITY - that really isn't a downside. LXDE, XFCE, and every WM<br>
> that I've tried just work.<br>
><br>
> SPICE is nice for inside a LAN, assuming the keyboard mapping issue has been<br>
> solved. It wasn't fixed for my needs and missing 3 important characters just<br>
> isn't an option. SPICE is not encrypted, so a full VPN is probably the best<br>
> remote solution to make that secure. Sure, you can setup SSL certs - hassle<br>
> for a small network.<br>
><br>
> Overall, I wish I'd switched from FreeNX/NX to x2go sooner for my Ubuntu<br>
> remote desktop VMs. Basically I have a personal VM for this and a work VM for<br>
> this that others use too. For non-video stuff, it works well. During the<br>
> installfest I showed a few people how well it worked. There wasn't any real<br>
> lag - even showing 7MC schedule data changes a page at a time.<br>
><br>
><br>
><br>
> On 10/01/2014 10:08 AM, Michael H. Warfield wrote:<br>
> > On Tue, 2014-09-30 at 15:02 -0400, Jim Kinney wrote:<br>
> >> If both ends are *nix, look at X2GO. It's an easier freenx than, um,<br>
> >> freenx. good for single connections. Not tabbed like remmina. (doesn't<br>
> >> crash as often as remmina either :-)<br>
> ><br>
> > Negatives are that X2GO is not compatible with "standard" NX versions such<br>
> > as FreeNX or NoMachine NX, which can be a significant problem depending on<br>
> > deployment. No plugin for Remmina, which is still my favorite<br>
> > multiprotocol client (and doesn't crash for me at all).<br>
> ><br>
> > On the plus side, if the client limitations aren't a deal breaker as they<br>
> > were for me, they do have Windows and MacOS clients, so it's not limited to<br>
> > both ends being *nix. For FreeNX, you would need the NoMachine NX client<br>
> > as Remmina is not available for Windows. Remmina should run under Cygwin<br>
> > but I've never tried it.<br>
> ><br>
> > This is this multiprotocol client, similar to Remmina, for Windows:<br>
> ><br>
> > <a href="http://www.mremoteng.org/" target="_blank">http://www.mremoteng.org/</a><br>
> ><br>
> > Downside, doesn't seem to support NX and certainly doesn't support X2GO.<br>
> ><br>
> > Downside to FreeNX server: May not work on all versions of Ubuntu due to<br>
> > conflicts with Wayland and some deprecated multimedia libraries. Not sure<br>
> > about X2GO there. Looks like X2GO may have similar conflicts. Refer to<br>
> > their FAQ.<br>
> >><br>
> > Regards, Mike<br>
> >><br>
<br>
</div></div>Regards,<br>
Mike<br>
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