<div dir="ltr">Never done Gentoo even on x86. How long will take on 400 Mhz PPC you think ?<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sat, Jun 7, 2014 at 10:22 AM, Jim Kinney <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:jim.kinney@gmail.com" target="_blank">jim.kinney@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Jun 6, 2014 6:22 PM, &quot;Jeff Hubbs&quot; &lt;<a href="mailto:jhubbslist@att.net" target="_blank">jhubbslist@att.net</a>&gt; wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">


  
    
  
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    <div>Not an issue with Gentoo.  From
      <a href="http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-ppc.xml?full=1#book_part1" target="_blank">http://www.gentoo.org/doc/en/handbook/handbook-ppc.xml?full=1#book_part1</a>:<br>
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        <tbody>
          <tr>
            <td><b>Apple NewWorld Machines</b></td>
            <td> Power/PowerPC microprocessors (G3,
              G4, G5) such as iMac, eMac, iBook PowerBook, Xserver,
              PowerMac </td>
          </tr>
          <tr>
            <td><b>Apple OldWorld machines</b></td>
            <td> Apple Machines with an Open Firmware
              revision less than 3, such as the Beige G3s, PCI PowerMacs
              and PCI PowerBooks. PCI-based Apple Clones should also be
              supported. </td>
          </tr>
          <tr>
            <td><b>Genesi</b></td>
            <td> Pegasos I/II, Open Desktop
              Workstation, Efika </td>
          </tr>
          <tr>
            <td><b>IBM</b></td>
            <td> RS/6000, iSeries, pSeries </td>
          </tr>
          <tr>
            <td><b>Memory</b></td>
            <td>At least 64 MB</td>
          </tr>
          <tr>
            <td><b>Diskspace</b></td>
            <td>1.5 GB (excluding swap space)</td>
          </tr>
          <tr>
            <td><b>Swap space</b></td>
            <td>At least 256 MB</td>
          </tr>
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      It&#39;s really nice to be able to take a non-Intel machine that&#39;d be
      a boat anchor to most and make it almost as useful as x86/x86_64
      (within reason, i.e. accelerated video).  I&#39;ve Gentooed a couple
      of Suns in the past; solid as a rock.<br>
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      On 6/6/14, 12:41 PM, Jim Kinney wrote:<br>
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          <div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Jun 6, 2014 at 12:04 PM,
            Michael H. Warfield <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:mhw@wittsend.com" target="_blank">mhw@wittsend.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br>
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              <div>On Fri, 2014-06-06 at 11:36 -0400, Michael
                H. Warfield wrote:<br>
                &gt; On Fri, 2014-06-06 at 13:50 +0000, Beddingfield,
                Allen wrote:<br>
                &gt; &gt; So, are any of you doing any Linux on PowerPC?
                 Someone gave me an old<br>
                &gt; &gt; 2Ghz PowerMac G5 (one of the big full tower
                aluminum ones that was<br>
                &gt; &gt; about $3000+ back when it was new), with 3 GB
                of memory, and a 1TB<br>
                &gt; &gt; hard drive.  It works great/has nothing wrong
                with it - not even a<br>
                &gt; &gt; scratch on the exterior.  It looks like Debian
                or Yellowdog seem to be<br>
                &gt; &gt; the main options for PPC these days...  this
                thing may be my weekend<br>
                &gt; &gt; experiment :)<br>
                <br>
                &gt; Wow...  Weird how things just synchronisticly come
                together...<br>
                <br>
                &gt; No, I&#39;m not actively working on PPC now although I
                do have the hardware<br>
                &gt; available to me.  In fact, said hardware may be a
                twin of your own.<br>
                <br>
                &gt; Be that as it may.  Fedora has been released on PPC
                (32 and 64).<br>
                <br>
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              Ah, crap...  Strike that...<br>
              <br>
              &gt; <a href="https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PowerPC/F20_PPC_release_announcement" target="_blank">https://fedoraproject.org/wiki/PowerPC/F20_PPC_release_announcement</a><br>
              <br>
              Reading in more detail was this unexpected gem
              (rhinestone)...<br>
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            <div>yeah<br>
              <br>
              &quot; Apple MacPPC systems are not supported, have not been
              tested, and are not expected to work.&quot;<br>
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            <div>Very geared toward new IBM Power systems.<br>
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              <span><font color="#888888"><br>
                  --<br>
                  Supported Hardware<br>
                  <br>
                  IBM POWER servers are the only systems fully supported
                  by Fedora for<br>
                  Power at this time.<br>
                  <br>
                  Apple MacPPC systems are not supported, have not been
                  tested, and are<br>
                  not expected to work.<br>
                  --<br>
                  <br>
                  Damn...  Guess that G5 sits a while longer...<br>
                </font></span>
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                  &gt; The coincidence is that I&#39;m fielding some
                  bugzilla reports on LXC at the<br>
                  &gt; moment and one of them is a failure to install
                  lxc-templates on a ppc64<br>
                  &gt; arch due to a dependency on busybox (which is
                  required).  Seems that<br>
                  &gt; someone forgot to build busybox for F20 ppc even
                  though it&#39;s present in<br>
                  &gt; F19 ppc.  Still looking for who to lay hands on
                  for that oversight.<br>
                  &gt;<br>
                  &gt; &gt; --<br>
                  &gt; &gt; Allen Beddingfield<br>
                  &gt; &gt; Systems Engineer<br>
                  &gt; &gt; The University of Alabama<br>
                  &gt;<br>
                  &gt; Regards,<br>
                  &gt; Mike<br>
                  <br>
                  --<br>
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                  live in the best of all<br>
                   PGP Key: 0x674627FF        | possible worlds.  A
                  pessimist is sure of it!<br>
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