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Jim, I think you hit the nail squarely on the head. It is mostly
attitude rather this or that desktop/application/OS is truly
more difficult than some other to use. Having used a variety of
GUI's from early Macs to know; I do not think most about the
same difficulty to learn and use. <br>
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In sales, sales staff is normally taught to handle objections.<br>
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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 05/19/2014 03:42 PM, Jim Kinney
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<div>yep. Stupid people all the place.<br>
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Not all that long ago, you had to have a PhD to _touch_ a
computer and now and yahoo living in a trailer can buy one
from Walmart.<br>
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Maybe it's because I've taught adult learners in college
classes (physics and astronomy) that I know the only
difference between those that can learn new technology and
those that don't learn new technology is attitude. Every time
people get a new car, it's "different" yet they get accustomed
to it. It not because they understand more of what's under the
hood on the car than the computer. It's very, very personal.
With out understanding how to drive that new car (where the AC
control and the wipers?) they are personally stuck at home and
can't go anywhere. So they muddle through it and commit enough
brain tissue to remember the new stuff.<br>
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So if a desire to make a transition to a new desktop is high,
I'll pass along a secret: Don't help the fearful. Ask "what did
you try first?" and send them back to try some more. There is no
better teacher than personal discover.<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, May 19, 2014 at 2:43 PM,
Lightner, Jeff <span dir="ltr"><<a moz-do-not-send="true"
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Are
you the ONE who is tasked with transitioning people
in your organization from iPhone to Droid? Are you
the one that migrated users from Windows 95 to
Windows XP or from XP to 7? If not then being
pedantic about “easy” is meaningless. You seem to
think I’m arguing that migrating to Linux is a bad
idea which I’m not. I’m arguing that just because
IT types think something is “easy” for themselves
does NOT mean it is “easy” for end users. Arguing
about the degree of “easy” is specious at best when
I’ve continually said that it is “change” not the
“specific change” that is resisted.</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">However,
using your example I know that KDE is NOT as “easy”
as you say because I’ve seen many a question by
Linux folks specifically about using KDE (or Gnome
or Unity or…). Even if it WERE that “easy” to you
or me it does not mean it is to the average end
user.</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Years
ago I learned a valuable lesson when I was taking
accounting 101 in an evening class. Each class the
professor would give us things to do (e.g. make a
P&L or a balance sheet or just a simple T chart)
to be ready for the next class. Before class
several of us got together in the student lounge and
would go over the solutions we’d come up with.
Usually when they’d ask me I’d start out by saying
“It’s easy I just …”. Finally one woman said to me
“It may be ‘easy’ for a god like you but for us mere
mortals it actually takes some effort.” Up until
then it had never occurred to me that everyone
didn’t find something as logical as double entry
accounting seemed to me to be “easy”. In fact I
later found out most folks took Accounting 2-3 times
before finally eking by with a passing grade because
to them it is “hard”.</span></p>
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style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d"> </span></p>
<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">Another
lesson I learned was back in the days when
electronic cash registers became computerized. One
guy I worked with could NOT get the “cash register”
to work because he “didn’t know anything about
computers”. He had this attitude because the new
register had a tiny CRT screen on it. No matter how
hard I tried to explain to him that he wasn’t
actually dealing with the “computer” aspect of it I
couldn’t get through his head that it was just as
“easy” as the “cash register” he’d been using
before. (This was before touch screens so it still
used the same type of keys the old “cash register”
had and still used the hard copy guest checks the
previous register did.) </span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span
style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1f497d">There
IS a real world resistance to change and arguing
that something is “easy” because YOU think it is
does not change the fact that it may NOT be “easy”
to the individuals to whom you’re trying to push the
change.</span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span
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<p class="MsoNormal">If they figured out an iPhone or
a Droid phone, they can figure out the Linux
desktop. It is less of a jump from XP to KDE than
from XP to Windows 7, and the Ubuntu desktop is very
similar to Win 8. Actually, I think that there is
less disruption from Windows 7 to KDE than from
Windows 7 to Windows 8 (or even 8.1).
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