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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">I think it is a bad idea to NOT do the update if you have the vulnerable version of openssl installed. Assuming you’re ok because you’re only using ssh will
be a bad idea. You may someday start https for some reason (or may even already have it running with say RedHat or Apache’s default page). Also openssl might be included in 3<sup>rd</sup> party tools you’re using or even in a specialized pam module.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><span style="font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D">Of course it does make sense to prioritize – SSL web servers on the internet first, then any other internet facing systems, then internal systems.<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal"><b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif"">From:</span></b><span style="font-size:10.0pt;font-family:"Tahoma","sans-serif""> ale-bounces@ale.org [mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org]
<b>On Behalf Of </b>Jim Kinney<br>
<b>Sent:</b> Thursday, April 17, 2014 10:17 AM<br>
<b>To:</b> Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts<br>
<b>Subject:</b> Re: [ale] OpenSSL Broken, Upgrade Now<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 12:56 AM, David Tomaschik <<a href="mailto:david@systemoverlord.com" target="_blank">david@systemoverlord.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Wed, Apr 16, 2014 at 5:36 AM, Jim Kinney <<a href="mailto:jim.kinney@gmail.com" target="_blank">jim.kinney@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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OpenSSH_6.4, OpenSSL 1.0.1e-fips 11 Feb 2013<br>
debug1: Reading configuration data /etc/ssh/ssh_config<br>
debug1: /etc/ssh/ssh_config line 51: Applying options for *<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">So is OpenSSH _using_ OpenSSL for encryption processes?<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Yes, but OpenSSH is not vulnerable to Heartbleed.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">OpenSSH uses OpenSSL for cryptographic primatives, but OpenSSH does not use TLS. Heartbleed is a vulnerability in the TLS implementation within OpenSSL; specifically, an error in processing incoming TLS messages. Since OpenSSH doesn't
use TLS, it doesn't process TLS messages, so there's no risk from Heartbleed.<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">Thanks! So ssh uses it's own heartbeat function and not the one in OpenSSL which has the massive leak.
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Tue, Apr 15, 2014 at 1:07 PM, Jim Kinney <<a href="mailto:jim.kinney@gmail.com" target="_blank">jim.kinney@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<a href="http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/apr/15/heartbleed-android-phones-vulnerable-data-shows" target="_blank">http://www.theguardian.com/technology/2014/apr/15/heartbleed-android-phones-vulnerable-data-shows</a><o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">On Mon, Apr 7, 2014 at 7:14 PM, David Tomaschik <<a href="mailto:david@systemoverlord.com" target="_blank">david@systemoverlord.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">TL;DR: Upgrade OpenSSL to >= 1.0.1g immediately, consider replacing keys. Not as bad as Debian OpenSSL bug, but worse than "goto fail;".<o:p></o:p></p>
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<p class="MsoNormal">"The Heartbleed Bug is a serious vulnerability in the popular OpenSSL cryptographic software library. This weakness allows stealing the information protected, under normal conditions, by the SSL/TLS encryption used to secure the Internet.
SSL/TLS provides communication security and privacy over the Internet for applications such as web, email, instant messaging (IM) and some virtual private networks (VPNs).<o:p></o:p></p>
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traffic, the names and passwords of the users and the actual content. This allows attackers to eavesdrop communications, steal data directly from the services and users and to impersonate services and users."<o:p></o:p></p>
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OpenPGP: 0x5DEA789B<br>
<a href="http://systemoverlord.com" target="_blank">http://systemoverlord.com</a><br>
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