<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 11:27 AM, Beddingfield, Allen <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:allen@ua.edu" target="_blank">allen@ua.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">I'm constantly arguing with boneheaded web developers who go and do their development on the latest bleeding-edge release of Ubuntu, Fedora, or OpenSUSE on a VM on their workstations, then expect me to upgrade the PHP on our SLES servers to that version on their test VM.<br>
At this point, I have to point out that we provide test/dev space on an identical server to production for a reason...and then they stomp and rant and rave, and I have to escalate to management and let them tell them "not just no, but hell no" on pulling in unsupported PHP packages or setting them up a special Debuntu VM for their site.<br>
Bleeding edge releases + web developers = a deadly combination and a huge security problem.<br>
Allen B.<br clear="all"></blockquote></div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">That's always an issue. I changed our HPC stack from CentOS to Fedora to avoid a mess of broken lib issues. At least these don't see public traffic. PHP is scary enough without running the latest developer versions on a public site.<br>
<br></div><div class="gmail_extra">I call those developers "lazy and soon to be unemployed". Provide them a mirror environment of the production realm to develop in and if they can't make it work, they can explain whey the design needs to change or they can work somewhere else.<br>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br>-- <br><div dir="ltr">-- <br>James P. Kinney III<br><i><i><i><i><br></i></i></i></i>Every time you stop a school, you will have to build a jail. What you
gain at one end you lose at the other. It's like feeding a dog on his
own tail. It won't fatten the dog.<br>
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