<div dir="ltr"><div>I constantly argue with my manager about Debian vs CentOS (RHEL) for servers :-\<br><br></div><div><br>also OS X is a pretty great OS for desktop/laptop usage.<br><br></div><br></div><div class="gmail_extra">
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 11:10 AM, Jim Kinney <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jim.kinney@gmail.com" target="_blank">jim.kinney@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>yep!<br><br></div>Fedora has a pretty robust wart removal process. Things like Spacewalk, FreeIPA and ovirt work FAR better than the RHEL versions. Of course the RHEL version is several versions back from the Fedora one so it still has the warts from that release.<br>
<br></div>Now that the fedup process JustWorks! running a Fedora server got much easier. RHEL will be incorporating a tool like fedup into RHEL7 and possibly backporting it to RHEL6. YAY!<br><br>Of course a general purpose OS that is truly wart-free is such a fantasy that it's laughable. With all the warts in Ubuntu and Debian and all the rest, I really feel pity for the poor schleps that spend their days on a windows server system.<br>
<br></div>I laugh at the "professional" sysadmins who are Apple geeks. They all work retail. BWAHAHAHAHA! "Can I get you a latte while you wait for me to fix your laptop?". <br><br>BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA!<br>
</div><div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Mar 6, 2014 at 10:41 AM, Lightner, Jeff <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:JLightner@dsservices.com" target="_blank">JLightner@dsservices.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">That's why Fedora exists...<br>
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I wish Red Hat put some effort into removing the warts, though.<br>
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> general orneriness and curmudgeonly character :-)<br>
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> Some of us "professionals" view certain distros as "hobby market only".<br>
> Ubuntu (even LTS) fits that for me. Too much stuff that was fixed over<br>
> a decade ago in other "professional class distros" is still wonky in Ubuntu.<br>
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> And then there's the funky, not so cool, not really in the spirit of<br>
> GNU/Linux/OpenSource shenanigans like the data pump to upstream<br>
> sources of search data, the "let's just fork everything and do our way<br>
> so we don't have to play well with others" mentality and some other<br>
> stuff that has rubbed me personally the wrong way over time with Ubuntu leadership.<br>
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> So, yeah. I'm a distro curmudgeon. I've got 15+ years experience with<br>
> "The RedHat Way" and while it's got it's share of warts, there's a<br>
> core bunch of stuff that just always works on an install and they keep<br>
> spending money buying closed source stuff and open sourcing it,<br>
> pushing it to Fedora upstream and funding rewrites to get rid of the<br>
> last bits of code that can't be open sourced due to license issues. If<br>
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>>>> Scott Castaline <<a href="mailto:skotchman@gmail.com" target="_blank">skotchman@gmail.com</a>> 3/5/2014 4:14 PM >>><br>
> It supports Android/Ubuntu/Linux ???? I thought Ubuntu was Linux????<br>
> Did I miss something in the news about Ubuntu?????<br>
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