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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Well I guess that would also make my
      ST225 on a 286 with DOS 3.XX obsolete.<br>
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      On 11/01/2013 09:01 AM, Lightner, Jeff wrote:<br>
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            implying the 8 GB drive in my Intel 486 / Windows 95 system
            is obsolete?<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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                <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org">ale-bounces@ale.org</a> [<a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org">mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org</a>]
                <b>On Behalf Of </b>Michael B. Trausch<br>
                <b>Sent:</b> Friday, November 01, 2013 8:14 AM<br>
                <b>To:</b> <a class="moz-txt-link-abbreviated" href="mailto:ale@ale.org">ale@ale.org</a><br>
                <b>Subject:</b> Re: [ale] [semi OT] encouraging and
                discouraging HDD and SSD observations<o:p></o:p></span></p>
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          <p class="MsoNormal">On 10/31/2013 10:00 PM, Ron Frazier (ALE)
            wrote:<o:p></o:p></p>
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          <pre style="mso-margin-top-alt:5.0pt;margin-right:.5in;margin-bottom:5.0pt;margin-left:.5in">So, discouraging observation: it is now almost impossible to find any HDD or SSD with a warranty of more than 2-3 years.&nbsp; Are they KIDDING?<o:p></o:p></pre>
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          No, they're not.<br>
          <br>
          You replace drives when they fail.<br>
          <br>
          If an HDD manufacturer offered a 10 year warranty, they'd be
          out of business *very* quickly.&nbsp; The fact that they no longer
          offer 5 year warranties is a
          <b><i><u>good</u></i></b> thing, reducing cost for us all.&nbsp; In
          my experience, if a drive runs for one year, 24x7, without
          fault, then it is likely to continue to do so for the next 9.&nbsp;
          OTOH, drives that power off and on a lot, will die much
          sooner.<br>
          <br>
          Anyway, if you're rich enough to depend on warranties or only
          use things in-warranty, well, to each their own.&nbsp; The only
          warranty I care about on a hard disk is 12 to 18 months.&nbsp;
          Outside of that, I've probably had to retire it due to growth
          anyway, my current set of HDDs being the exception.<br>
          <br>
          Most HDDs drive well outside of warranty if treated properly.&nbsp;
          SSD is flash-based and has its downsides, too, including
          bitrot (albeit differently than on magnetic media).<br>
          <br>
          This is entirely the wrong industry to want long warranties
          in.&nbsp; You only need a warranty long enough to burn in the
          hardware and use it for a little while.&nbsp; All other stability
          should come from your backups.&nbsp; All.<br>
          <br>
          &nbsp;&nbsp;&nbsp; &#8212; Mike<o:p></o:p></p>
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