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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">This is one reason why working with
Gentoo is such a relief - you can almost always very readily put a
stake in the ground with the version of the package(s) you care
about and control the rest of the packages on the system
independently of that at least up to the point where the manifold
of dependencies can't be resolved (and sometimes you get saved
from that thanks to slotted packages - multiple versions that can
coexist side-by-side). When designing a Java 6 server that wound
up having to be CentOS (one reason I got out of the business: no
control over what's used), I set up a Gentoo version in parallel
as a reference implementation. Later, I did the same thing with
CUPS because Gentoo's current CUPS package was a major release
ahead of CentOS', which wouldn't have been all that big a deal
except the current release had a vastly improved web management
interface.<br>
<br>
And, there are never complaints about the installer in Gentoo
because there isn't one; you set up your machine (or image, if
you're thinking ahead) using the tools are on whichever liveCD you
decided to boot with. <br>
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On 10/23/13 11:34 AM, Jim Kinney wrote:<br>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 9:48 AM,
Beddingfield, Allen <span dir="ltr"><<a
moz-do-not-send="true" href="mailto:allen@ua.edu"
target="_blank">allen@ua.edu</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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.8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">The whole
"not up to date enough" garbage from web people makes me
want to puke constantly. I can't tell you how many times I
get a web developer who has developed some site in PHP on
the latest Ubuntu Ornery Orangatan or Pliable Platypus, or
whatever the latest Ubuntu release of the minute is, with
every PHP option installed and the latest bleeding edge
version. They try to get it to run on one of our SLES 11 or
RHEL 6 servers, and it won't... they don't understand that
I can't just "upgrade to PHP 5.4.x"...yeah...5.3 with
backported security updates is currently supported on this
release - don't like it? Take a hike. Oh, and giving them
dev space on a server with the same patch level doesn't
help, because they can't possibly work within the confines
of THAT old environment.<br>
The fact that so many web people think developing on a
bleeding-edge workstation distro is a sane idea just throws
fuel on the fire of my dislike for Ubuntu.<br>
<div class="im">--<br>
Allen Beddingfield<br>
Systems Engineer<br>
The University of Alabama<br>
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Subject: Re: [ale] Fedora grousing<br>
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<div class="h5">I can't fathom why anyone would use Ubuntu
for servers. If you don't<br>
need the, I have to admit, nice things that RHEL
provides (once you<br>
pay enough), why wouldn't you be using Debian? If you're
going to say<br>
"not up-to-date enough," well, you did say "Ubuntu LTS."
That's just<br>
as stale at some point.<br>
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On Wed, Oct 23, 2013 at 9:29 AM, leam hall <<a
moz-do-not-send="true"
href="mailto:leamhall@gmail.com">leamhall@gmail.com</a>>
wrote:<br>
> Fedora is branching into it's own beast and losing
any relevance to those of<br>
> us who like Red Hat. With the LTS option, Ubuntu is
making itself worth a<br>
> look. From what I can tell, a lot of web based
startups are preferring<br>
> Ubuntu to CentOS/RHEL. No one seems to like Fedora.<br>
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James Sumners<br>
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"All governments suffer a recurring problem: Power
attracts<br>
pathological personalities. It is not that power
corrupts but that it<br>
is magnetic to the corruptible. Such people have a
tendency to become<br>
drunk on violence, a condition to which they are quickly
addicted."<br>
<br>
Missionaria Protectiva, Text QIV (decto)<br>
CH:D 59<br>
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