<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8"><base href="x-msg://240/"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><div>vi/vim in the terminal plus perl_support plugins and custom vim templates for Puppet & Perl.</div><div><br></div><div>--jms</div><div><br></div><br><div><div>On Oct 22, 2013, at 9:32 AM, "Lightner, Jeff" <<a href="mailto:JLightner@water.com">JLightner@water.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div bgcolor="white" lang="EN-US" link="blue" vlink="purple" style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; font-style: normal; font-variant: normal; font-weight: normal; letter-spacing: normal; line-height: normal; orphans: 2; text-align: -webkit-auto; text-indent: 0px; text-transform: none; white-space: normal; widows: 2; word-spacing: 0px; -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; -webkit-text-stroke-width: 0px; "><p class="f758a8b8-08bf-4bab-8d22-45dba9e71175" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; "></p><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; "><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">vi/vim<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">emacs install requests from developers typically result in boxing of the ears. :p<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); ">Truthfully though – Once MS came out with Edit as a full screen editor as opposed to that abomination edlin everything else has been gravy. :D<o:p></o:p></span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><span style="font-size: 11pt; font-family: Calibri, sans-serif; color: rgb(31, 73, 125); "> </span></div><div></div></div><div><br class="webkit-block-placeholder"></div><p class="f758a8b8-08bf-4bab-8d22-45dba9e71175" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; "> </p><p class="f758a8b8-08bf-4bab-8d22-45dba9e71175" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; "> </p><p class="f758a8b8-08bf-4bab-8d22-45dba9e71175" style="margin: 0cm 0cm 0pt; "></p><div class="WordSection1" style="page: WordSection1; "><div><div style="border-style: solid none none; border-top-width: 1pt; border-top-color: rgb(181, 196, 223); padding: 3pt 0in 0in; "><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: windowtext; ">From:</span></b><span style="font-size: 10pt; font-family: Tahoma, sans-serif; color: windowtext; "><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:ale-bounces@ale.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">ale-bounces@ale.org</a><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>[mailto:ale-<a href="mailto:bounces@ale.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">bounces@ale.org</a>]<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><b>On Behalf Of<span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span></b>Michael B. Trausch<br><b>Sent:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Tuesday, October 22, 2013 9:24 AM<br><b>To:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span><a href="mailto:ale@ale.org" style="color: purple; text-decoration: underline; ">ale@ale.org</a><br><b>Subject:</b><span class="Apple-converted-space"> </span>Re: [ale] Survey -- preferred Text Editor<o:p></o:p></span></div></div></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><o:p> </o:p></div><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">On 10/22/2013 09:13 AM, Charles Shapiro wrote:<o:p></o:p></div></div><blockquote style="margin-top: 5pt; margin-bottom: 5pt; "><div><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Emacs. No one should be without an editor which includes in the standard distribution a Towers of Hanoi simulation, an adventure game, and an ELIZA simulation. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">That said, vi(1) is an Essential Life Skill, and I can get around in it well enough not to embarrass myself.<o:p></o:p></div></blockquote><p class="MsoNormal" style="margin: 0in 0in 12pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; "><br>I swore I wouldn't jump in on this thread... oh, well.<br><br>Agreed.<br><br>I use both emacs and vi, though my preference is emacs. I don't use the LISP functionality anywhere near as much as Dave does, and when I need complex things done in LISP in Emacs, it's quicker for me to ask him and move on to the next thing than to try to figure it all out.<br><br>Personally, had I the time to do so, I'd create an Emacs like editor where the script component is modular. Imagine LISP, Python and JavaScript all being "first-class" in the editor macro world, even being able to call each other's routines and so forth. I'd probably be a lot happier with either Python or JS there, compared to LISP.<br><br>But, emacs is nice and 90% of what I need to do with it has keybindings by default or I have bound myself. :-)<br><br> — Mike<o:p></o:p></p><div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">--<o:p></o:p></div><table class="MsoNormalTable" border="0" cellpadding="0"><tbody><tr><td style="padding: 0.75pt; "></td><td style="padding: 0.75pt; "><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0.0001pt; font-size: 12pt; font-family: 'Times New Roman', serif; ">Michael B. 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