<html><head><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=iso-8859-1"></head><body style="word-wrap: break-word; -webkit-nbsp-mode: space; -webkit-line-break: after-white-space; "><br><div><div>On Oct 11, 2013, at 2:32 PM, Edward Holcroft <<a href="mailto:eholcroft@mkainc.com">eholcroft@mkainc.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Jerald,</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I'd strongly support splitting the list. Back in Johannesburg we did this with my LUG and it worked out very well as a response to exactly the kind of thing we're experiencing here. I can see separate ALE-Tech and ALE-Chat lists being a good thing.</div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I think my original suggestions were 3 lists:</div><div><br></div><div>-chat</div><div>-announce </div><div><br></div><div>and just plain "ALE".</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>ALE - moderated</div><div>-chat - "wild west"</div><div>-announce - (required for membership on either of the other two) for admin weenies to let everyone know "what's shakin'" in the ALE world.</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>It was modeled after the Washington DC SAGE group's layout which has worked WONDERFULLY well for years. I'm subscribed to straight up "dc-sage" and "dc-sage-announce" and never get a peep about politics or Ham antennas or anything. (and that group is filled with that sort of stuff). It all, by convention, ends up in "-chat" because it has nothing to do with tech/sysadmin/etc.</div><div><br></div><div>I've been grateful to be be able to unilaterally "opt out" of non-tech discussions in this way.</div><div><br></div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr">
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Regrettably I'm another one of those that gets overly irritated by incessant, random verbal diarrhea by one person that has too much time on their hands. I get doubly pissed when it's about Windows apps and how Windows "just works" and how hard and incapable Linux is. I regularly have to ignore what comes across as blatant trolling on this list and I do not see why I should have to unsubscribe, block or otherwise modify my behavior to accommodate this kind of anti-social drivel. If one wants one's warm-fuzzies about Windows affirmed, go join a Windows list, for crying out loud. </div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>At least we don't have those issues here. We just can't seem to be civil to one another on this list. I've managed to be able to ignore a lot of the "OT" (for me) conversations and just scan headers for topics of interest to me. If we can just stop the harsh garbage, that'd be nice.</div><div><br></div><div>:)</div><div><br></div></div><%= $rodney_king_quote %><div><br></div><div>--jms</div></body></html>