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    <div class="moz-cite-prefix">Xymon (previously hobbit) is the open
      source replacement / successor to Big Brother.
      <a class="moz-txt-link-freetext" href="http://xymon.sourceforge.net/">http://xymon.sourceforge.net/</a><br>
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      It started out as a patch addon to speed up BB, back in the days
      when BB was not quite free software but did provide source code.
      After Quest closed the BB source (even for paid licensees such as
      yours truly who were running it on hardware they refused to
      provide binaries for --way to honor that license, Quest!) hobbit
      evolved into its own thing and most of the developer community
      around BB went with it. Then the Tolkien family came after it, so
      now it's Xymon....<br>
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      On 10/9/13 1:42 PM, Jim Kinney wrote:<br>
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        Looks like BB is $0. It is certainly NOT open source. compiled
        binaries for many platforms.<br>
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        <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 1:15 PM, Jim
          Kinney <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a moz-do-not-send="true"
              href="mailto:jim.kinney@gmail.com" target="_blank">jim.kinney@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
          wrote:<br>
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                <div>Big Brother's background color was a simple and
                  brilliant way to show overall health. Big Sister, the
                  FLOSS BB rewrite, never managed to hit critical mass
                  but made it to a 1.0+ release in 2006. BB is still
                  around after being acquired by Quest (and now Dell has
                  Quest it appears?) but is no longer "free". It never
                  was FLOSS.<br>
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                Nagios configuration is convoluted. Don't like it.
                _REALLY_ want some solid logic to add besides time and
                pester-me counts. If this AND this but NOT this then
                flag once and don't page until this followed by this
                however if this AND this AND this page NOW (yeah - good
                luck with that).<br>
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              I been a consumer of Zabbix and found it a better layout
              that nagios. An install of zabbix is soon in my future.<br>
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                  <div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Oct 9, 2013 at 8:33
                    AM, Jerald Sheets <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a
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                        href="mailto:questy@gmail.com" target="_blank">questy@gmail.com</a>&gt;</span>
                    wrote:<br>
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                      On Oct 9, 2013, at 7:45 AM, "Lightner, Jeff" &lt;<a
                        moz-do-not-send="true"
                        href="mailto:JLightner@water.com"
                        target="_blank">JLightner@water.com</a>&gt;
                      wrote:<br>
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                      &gt; So the issue wasn't Nagios - it was the folks
                      managing it.<br>
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                      &gt; Nagios is a great tool and we use it in
                      Production.<br>
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                      I'll bite. &nbsp;Nobody better to discuss with than the
                      ALE family&#8230;<br>
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                      So, I hate Nagios. &nbsp;Can't express how much I
                      dislike the product, the layout of the alerting,
                      the lack of a comprehensive, easy to see and
                      understand dashboard with easily
                      managed/administered acknowledgements, mobile
                      accessibility, automation, escalation paging&#8230; you
                      name it.<br>
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                      Now, before you freak out, I know it's all in
                      there, but I personally find it markedly difficult
                      to find all this stuff in the way Nagios has
                      decided to lay everything out.<br>
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                      Is this just a "me" thing? &nbsp;Is it because my
                      earliest and most often used monitoring stuff is
                      from a "Big Brother" background? &nbsp;(BB, Hobbit,
                      Xymon, Foglight, Spotlight)<br>
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                      What's the general landscape of monitoring tools
                      and utilities in use out there?<br>
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                      --Jerald<br>
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              <span class="HOEnZb"><font color="#888888">-- <br>
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                    James P. Kinney III<br>
                    <i><i><i><i><br>
                          </i></i></i></i>Every time you stop a school,
                    you will have to build a jail. What you gain at one
                    end you lose at the other. It's like feeding a dog
                    on his own tail. It won't fatten the dog.<br>
                    - Speech 11/23/1900 Mark Twain<br>
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          James P. Kinney III<br>
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                </i></i></i></i>Every time you stop a school, you will
          have to build a jail. What you gain at one end you lose at the
          other. It's like feeding a dog on his own tail. It won't
          fatten the dog.<br>
          - Speech 11/23/1900 Mark Twain<br>
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