<div dir="ltr"><div>Or of course you could just RIDE YOUR BIKE.<br><br></div>-- CHS<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Sep 19, 2013 at 11:00 AM, Scott Plante <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:splante@insightsys.com" target="_blank">splante@insightsys.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div><div style="font-size:12pt;font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif">Looks like the myth they busted was at 45mph, not >= 60.<div>
<a href="http://dsc.discovery.com/tv-shows/mythbusters/videos/air-conditioning-vs-windows-minimyth.htm" target="_blank">http://dsc.discovery.com/tv-shows/mythbusters/videos/air-conditioning-vs-windows-minimyth.htm</a></div>
<div>(they say the speed at ~1:30-1:40)</div><div><br></div><div>I have a vague memory that air resistance increases with the square of the speed; if so, 45 to 60 would be big.</div><div><br></div><div>Now I wonder what the difference is between A/C and having the top down! ;-)</div>
<div><br></div><div>Scott<br><br><hr><div style="font-size:12pt;font-style:normal;font-family:Helvetica,Arial,sans-serif;text-decoration:none;font-weight:normal"><b>From: </b>"Jim Kinney" <<a href="mailto:jim.kinney@gmail.com" target="_blank">jim.kinney@gmail.com</a>><br>
<b>To: </b>"Atlanta User Group (E-mail)" <<a href="mailto:ale@ale.org" target="_blank">ale@ale.org</a>><br><b>Sent: </b>Wednesday, September 18, 2013 3:51:49 PM<div class="im"><br><b>Subject: </b>Re: [ale] [OT] - Ethanol-free gas in the Atlanta area? - and gas saving tips<br>
<br></div><div><div class="h5"><p dir="ltr">Mythbusters busted #3 :-)</p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Sep 17, 2013 3:47 PM, "Ron Frazier (ALE)" <<a href="mailto:atllinuxenthinfo@techstarship.com" target="_blank">atllinuxenthinfo@techstarship.com</a>> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Hi all,<br>
<br>
I thought you'd like to see these gas saving tips I found in a Popular Mechanics article while reading blogs about gauges. They are interesting and some are counter intuitive.<br>
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<a href="http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/news/fuel-economy/6-driving-tactics-to-save-gas-this-weekend" target="_blank">http://www.popularmechanics.<u></u>com/cars/news/fuel-economy/6-<u></u>driving-tactics-to-save-gas-<u></u>this-weekend</a><br>
<a href="http://www.popularmechanics.com/cars/news/fuel-economy/6-driving-tactics-to-save-gas-this-weekend-2" target="_blank">http://www.popularmechanics.<u></u>com/cars/news/fuel-economy/6-<u></u>driving-tactics-to-save-gas-<u></u>this-weekend-2</a><br>
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1) Coast to a stop whenever possible and safe. The less you brake, the better your mileage.<br>
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2) Don't accelerate too slowly or too quickly. Doing either keeps the transmission in lower less fuel efficient gears. Take about 15 seconds to get to 50 mph.<br>
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3) Close windows and keep AC on to keep cool at 60 mph and over. Aerodynamic drag costs you otherwise.<br>
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4) Cruise at lower speed, if safe. Test car - 40 MPH - 29 MPG; 60 MPH - 26 MPG; 80 MPH - 21 MPG.<br>
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5) Coast down and up hills if safe and don't try to maintain constant speed.<br>
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6) When coasting down hill, leave the car in gear. Many cars will disable the fuel injectors. Idling in neutral burns more fuel.<br>
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Other misc tips: monitor tire pressure, plan and combine errands, spend as much time as possible with engine warm - go to farthest of several small stops first, make right turns only so you spend less time waiting on traffic, avoid ethanol (relevant to this thread).<br>
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Sincerely,<br>
<br>
Ron<br>
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On 9/17/2013 3:29 AM, Ron Frazier (ALE) wrote:<br>
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Nice sites. Thanks. Not much help to me though. No pure 87 octane anywhere near me. Larger cities are most notably missing from the lists.<br>
<br>
Ron<br>
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On 9/16/2013 8:22 PM, Beddingfield, Allen wrote:<br>
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Ah, the second one is exactly what I needed! I had been looking around on the first one, but as you noted, was not familiar enough with the little town names.<br>
The collective knowledge and usefulness of the info on this list once again is proven ;)<br>
Ethanol free is all I use in my mowers, tillers, etc..., and I have been trying to use it exclusively in my Jeep.<br>
I made an observation a few years back regarding this topic.<br>
Before the current vehicle, I had a 2008 Volvo S60 2.5T. At the time, I was dating someone near Pensacola. If I filled up the car with ethanol free gas, I could drive down, park my car at her place/ride with her for the weekend, get in the car, and drive back on one tank of gas. The light would come on just before I came into Tuscaloosa. If I used ethanol gas, that light would come on about 30-40 miles south of town. I repeated this experiment several times with near-identical results.<br>
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Allen B.<br>
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Allen Beddingfield<br>
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The University of Alabama<br>
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To: Atlanta Linux Enthusiasts<br>
Subject: Re: [ale] [OT] - Ethanol-free gas in the Atlanta area?<br>
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At least two different web sites track stations that sell real gas.<br>
<a href="http://pure-gas.org/index.jsp?stateprov=GA" target="_blank">http://pure-gas.org/index.jsp?<u></u>stateprov=GA</a><br>
<a href="http://www.buyrealgas.com/Georgia.html" target="_blank">http://www.buyrealgas.com/<u></u>Georgia.html</a><br>
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Have used the first though the second may be more useful to an out of town'er<br>
not familiar with city names. Oh, anyone not aware of the difference.<br>
lawnmowers, weedeaters and chainsaws love real gas. And you can safely leave<br>
it in the tank at the end of the season unlike ethanol which will fill an<br>
aluminum carburetor full of white sludge.<br>
-- <br>
William<br>
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On Monday 16 September 2013, Beddingfield, Allen wrote:<br>
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I'm going to be coming over to Atlanta for a week (Sunday 22nd to Friday<br>
27th), and I was wondering if anyone knows of a gas station in the Atlanta<br>
area with ethanol-free gasoline? From what I can find online, it looks<br>
like there is one place in Douglasville and one place in Marietta, but I<br>
don't see anything listed any closer. My vehicle burns the ethanol stuff<br>
just fine, but I prefer to use non-ethanol when I can. I'll be coming in<br>
on 20 from the west, and taking 285 up to the Sandy Springs/Dunwoody area.<br>
I don't mind driving a bit out of the way if necessary.<br>
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