<div dir="ltr">I have both the 1U dells and the tower dells still. I've pulled everything up into the den and am cleaning / testing it now. If you're still interested, let me know and we can arrange a time for you to swing by (I'm in Smyrna) and take a look. <br>
<br>Scott<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Aug 5, 2013 at 2:23 PM, Chuck Payne <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:terrorpup@gmail.com" target="_blank">terrorpup@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Scott,<br>
<br>
Hey do you still have those? I have a rack now and place I can put<br>
them. Sorry for the delay in getting back to you, I been swamped at<br>
work.<br>
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On Mon, Jul 15, 2013 at 11:42 AM, Scott Castaline <<a href="mailto:skotchman@gmail.com">skotchman@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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> I've got an old Dell Poweredge 1400 series server. It only has one of<br>
> two possible CPU modules, and 512MB. It also has 3 SCSI Wide HDDs. (It<br>
> did have 4 but one died, can't find track 0 on powerup, you can hear<br>
> the constant recal going on with that drive.) It hasn't been powered<br>
> up in a while, you're welcome to come over and check it out, if it<br>
> interests you. I live in the Lawrenceville area.<br>
><br>
> Scott C<br>
><br>
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> On 07/15/2013 10:14 AM, Jerald Sheets wrote:<br>
>> Ok, I'm at a desk and not on a phone.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> Let's sort of set the stage, if you will, to clarify a few things.<br>
>><br>
>> First, I've raised two boys into their 20's and done this all<br>
>> before. Second, I've got a metric crapload of snort processing<br>
>> scripts I've written that watch for all manner of icky URL matches<br>
>> on "requested sites" and also on Squid's logs to do the same. I<br>
>> took the stance with the boys of "trust but verify" which is a very<br>
>> "apple-storeish" thing to do. I had transgressions once by each<br>
>> boy that got addressed personally and quietly and have managed<br>
>> (aside from the occasional pop-up storm) to keep them "porn free"<br>
>> if you will as long as they've been under my roof. Anything they've<br>
>> managed outside of the house is beyond the scope of my purview, of<br>
>> course, but they pay for their own phones now… I can't "control"<br>
>> their intake forever.<br>
>><br>
>> Now I'm on "kids 2.0" with my second wife, and they're all girls<br>
>> and at ages 3, 6, and 10. The 10 year old has an internet-capable<br>
>> device, so, I'm putting the same system back in place with the<br>
>> same scripts and logging and automated emails and such. However,<br>
>> their mother wants the added protection of content filtering for a<br>
>> couple of years until "aunt flo" arrives and she can halve "talk<br>
>> 1.0" with her, but also wanting to know /what /was requested and by<br>
>> what mechanism. Ipcop to the rescue again…you can say "no" via<br>
>> automated system, but it's considerably more important to know what<br>
>> is being asked for and how. Was it typed in? Why is the child<br>
>> interested in that particular topic? (etc. etc.)<br>
>><br>
>> Also, having all these folks on the network at home while "mom &<br>
>> dad" work from home a lot requires packet-shaping of the Xbox and<br>
>> Rou down and web traffic/SSH up. Also, when on the road, I need to<br>
>> be able to VPN into my private network from anywhere to do<br>
>> something even so small as printing a doc for my wife all the way<br>
>> to rooting around my internal net for various reasons. (i.e., you<br>
>> can't hit the time machine from the outside)<br>
>><br>
>> So, a smallish box with modest means to run a couple hundred meg<br>
>> distro for firewalling seemed to be the way to go for us… that's<br>
>> why I asked.<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> TL;DR. (I've done this before.. I just need hardware)<br>
>><br>
>> Something else on the topic…. I re-read and it appeared I was<br>
>> *only* asking for "free" stuff… I'm not. If you've got something<br>
>> hogging space and you're under a "nag order" to get rid of it,<br>
>> please do think of me first. And if it requires a few bucks,<br>
>> that's good too. I just wanted to work with you guys who may need<br>
>> a few bucks first before giving that cash to $company making cheap<br>
>> crap in China. I'd rather buy the cheap crap from you instead.<br>
>> XD<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> --j<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On Jul 15, 2013, at 8:52 AM, Tom Freeman<br>
>> <<a href="mailto:tfreeman@intel.digichem.net">tfreeman@intel.digichem.net</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:tfreeman@intel.digichem.net">tfreeman@intel.digichem.net</a>>><br>
>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> Please forgive the chime in - but...<br>
>>><br>
>>> +1 with an observation of sorts<br>
>>><br>
>>> A parent still needs to monitor sufficiently to catch a usuable<br>
>>> per centage (what ever that value is) to ensure that the<br>
>>> conversation takes place. (I caught a daughter sneaking a viewing<br>
>>> of "Flesh Gordon" from a copy her late mother gave me. _That_ was<br>
>>> an awkward conversation!)<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>>> On Mon, 15 Jul 2013, Jim Kinney wrote:<br>
>>><br>
>>>> In short: don't rely on technology as a role model stand-in for<br>
>>>> children. I have exactly 0 filters on the feed at my house.<br>
>>>> none. waste of time. Kids will find what interests them. If<br>
>>>> it's porn, you're overdue for "the talk" and that one will go<br>
>>>> on for the next several years. If the adult is not capable of<br>
>>>> sitting down and watching what they are and rationally<br>
>>>> explaining what is problematic about it, the child will begin<br>
>>>> to disregard the adult as an authority figure and view them as<br>
>>>> just another knee-jerker wearing blinders. Most kids are<br>
>>>> wanting to find stuff that's not porn and other "bad stuff".<br>
>>>> Most kids get embarrassed or grossed out when it accidentally<br>
>>>> crosses the screen on an errant mouse click. It's far more<br>
>>>> important to have them understanding that they will not be<br>
>>>> punished the occasional mistake but will be expected to learn<br>
>>>> from them. Teach them the "back" button in both mouse and<br>
>>>> keystrokes :-) Ron brought up a bigger issue that can't be<br>
>>>> filtered with current tools: what the kids actually say online<br>
>>>> to each other. Between 12-13 and about 19-20, girls are vile,<br>
>>>> horrid creatures to other girls and boys are brain-damaged<br>
>>>> monsters with illusions of invincibility. A useful tool would<br>
>>>> be a screen mirror with recording so the nasty things they say<br>
>>>> to each other can be replayed, discussed, and used as reasons<br>
>>>> why privilege A is being withheld. I'm thinking of a chat<br>
>>>> mirroring tool or email copy process. It will only get to be<br>
>>>> used once then they will change methods (if they are smart).<br>
>>>> But that level of guidance, no matter what _they_ think, would<br>
>>>> benefit them greatly learning how to relate with others.<br>
>>>> Besides, once the hormones kick in, they will find a way to<br>
>>>> find out about it. If the default view at home is "NO! BAD!",<br>
>>>> they will look elsewhere for answers unless they are totally<br>
>>>> dominated by helicopter parents. Most commercial porn is crap<br>
>>>> with subtle and not so subtle overtone of violence against<br>
>>>> women as themes. It's a challenge to find something that can<br>
>>>> serve as guidance for humans really relate in bed. And<br>
>>>> intelligent bed banging is far better than stupid gun banging<br>
>>>> in the street. On Sun, Jul 14, 2013 at 9:46 PM, Ron Frazier<br>
>>>> (ALE) <<a href="mailto:atllinuxenthinfo@techstarship.com">atllinuxenthinfo@techstarship.com</a><br>
>>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:atllinuxenthinfo@techstarship.com">atllinuxenthinfo@techstarship.com</a>>> wrote: Hi all,<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Since I brought up OpenDNS, even though I'm a user and a fan,<br>
>>>> I should point out some limitations. About 10%, as a rough<br>
>>>> guestimate, of the ugly stuff will sneak through the filter.<br>
>>>> The purveyers of junk bring up new sites too fast for<br>
>>>> everything to be in the database. Do not assume your kids will<br>
>>>> be totally prevented from getting to any and all "insert bad<br>
>>>> category" stuff.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Also, if your kid knows how to do any of the following, he /<br>
>>>> she can bypass the filter: choose an alternate dns server on<br>
>>>> the pc, use a proxy / anonymizer (although you can filter that<br>
>>>> category), browse by ip alone without dns, start up a vpn,<br>
>>>> take their laptop / smartphone to a friend's house or hotspot<br>
>>>> or step parent's house. Anything that bypasses the use of the<br>
>>>> OpenDNS servers or changes their public ip bypasses the filter.<br>
>>>> I have wished in the past that I could tie the filter to a<br>
>>>> specific pc, but OpenDNS does not provide that as far as I<br>
>>>> know.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Internet Explorer provides some built in content filtering<br>
>>>> options, which can tie into things like NetNanny (I think),<br>
>>>> but I've never used it. Firefox doesn't provide any of that<br>
>>>> natively that I'm aware of, but there may be plugins for it.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> I have links to a couple of Christian sites related these<br>
>>>> topics I could try to dig up if anyone wants.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Note that, even if they cannot easily access "<a href="http://uglyjunk.com" target="_blank">uglyjunk.com</a><br>
>>>> <<a href="http://uglyjunk.com" target="_blank">http://uglyjunk.com</a>>" because of OpenDNS, they can see links<br>
>>>> to it in google and bing, and in the latter case, with live<br>
>>>> video coming though bing. The child's pc need not ever visit<br>
>>>> "<a href="http://uglyjunk.com" target="_blank">uglyjunk.com</a> <<a href="http://uglyjunk.com" target="_blank">http://uglyjunk.com</a>>" to see some of its<br>
>>>> content, albeit with smaller pictures.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> You can make things harder to bypass by putting the OpenDNS<br>
>>>> servers in your router settings. Then, any pc which just uses<br>
>>>> basic dhcp to get it's ip and dns will pick that up from the<br>
>>>> router. But, that does not prevent the pc from querying<br>
>>>> another dns server directly if it wants to. If the pc can get<br>
>>>> an ip for "<a href="http://uglyjunk.com" target="_blank">uglyjunk.com</a> <<a href="http://uglyjunk.com" target="_blank">http://uglyjunk.com</a>>", it can still<br>
>>>> visit the site.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> I have heard that you can get hosts files of preconfigured<br>
>>>> blacklist sites, then the computer is just directed to nowhere<br>
>>>> when they try to get those sites, before even querying the dns.<br>
>>>> I've never used that though.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> The service also depends on linking your public ip to your<br>
>>>> account. That's why going to a hotspot bypasses the filter.<br>
>>>> They'll have a different public ip which is not linked to your<br>
>>>> account. Even if the pc was set to use the OpenDNS servers,<br>
>>>> your personal filter settings would not be in affect. You<br>
>>>> would still get phishing protection though.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Since your public ip is subject to change periodically when<br>
>>>> your cable / dsl modem resets, you need to run a small utility,<br>
>>>> which I run in Windows, to link your current public ip with<br>
>>>> your account and filter settings. You'll have to check on<br>
>>>> whether they have a linux utility, but they probably do. When<br>
>>>> your ip changes, if the utility runs, the OpenDNS servers get<br>
>>>> set to respond to the new ip. If your ip setting utility<br>
>>>> doesn't run for a few days, then your filters won't be in<br>
>>>> affect for a few days if your ip has changed.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> I do NOT recommend running the ip setting utility on the<br>
>>>> child's computer. Here's why. Let's say you did that. They<br>
>>>> go to starbucks. They login, then the ip utility links<br>
>>>> STARBUCKS public ip to YOUR filter account. Your child would<br>
>>>> then be subject to your filters, but so would EVERYONE ELSE in<br>
>>>> starbucks. That might cause some problems. This would remain<br>
>>>> in effect until your child logged into another network and got<br>
>>>> another public ip.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Because ip's change, the system occasionally gets confused as<br>
>>>> to which account owns which ip. This is rare, but, for<br>
>>>> example, let's say there is a disruption at the isp and all the<br>
>>>> cable modems get reset. You may end up with what was someone<br>
>>>> else's public ip and they may end up with yours. It may take a<br>
>>>> little while for the ip setting utilities to set everything<br>
>>>> straight. So, the possibility does exist that they could see<br>
>>>> stuff in their account logs on OpenDNS that came from you and<br>
>>>> you could see theirs.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> One other slight disadvantage of the OpenDNS system is that<br>
>>>> all pc's in the house with the same public ip will have the<br>
>>>> same filters. You could always active a vpn or proxy on your<br>
>>>> own pc though and bypass your own filter.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Despite these limitations, I found the service extremely<br>
>>>> useful and wouldn't want to be without it with a child in the<br>
>>>> house. You could gang other technologies on top of this, if you<br>
>>>> wish. I still have it active, even though my child has moved<br>
>>>> out, to filter out rubbish that I might hit accidentally.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> This is slightly off topic to the original question, but I'd<br>
>>>> consider a certain amount of monitoring of my kid's<br>
>>>> communications online. Chat, email, facebook, whatever. How<br>
>>>> much is up to you. I'd also set rules on who it was<br>
>>>> appropriate to communicate with. Again, up to personal<br>
>>>> discretion. You can get books about how to deal with these<br>
>>>> issues.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Sincerely,<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Ron<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> On 7/14/2013 8:09 PM, Doug Hall wrote: 27" iMac is sweet. But I<br>
>>>> agree with Ron. There's no reason to buy ANYTHING if you use<br>
>>>> OpenDNS to filter content. I'm very satisfied with the free<br>
>>>> service. Okay, maybe paranoia is a reason. I wouldn't be<br>
>>>> surprised to know that OpenDNS is releasing records to the NSA.<br>
>>>> But then again, so could your current ISP. On Sun, Jul 14, 2013<br>
>>>> at 5:03 PM, Jerald Sheets <<a href="mailto:questy@gmail.com">questy@gmail.com</a><br>
>>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:questy@gmail.com">questy@gmail.com</a>>> wrote: I do. It's a slamming 27"<br>
>>>> iMac. :)<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Jerald Sheets Sent from my iPhone5 On Jul 13, 2013, at 10:20<br>
>>>> PM, Jim Kinney <<a href="mailto:jim.kinney@gmail.com">jim.kinney@gmail.com</a><br>
>>>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:jim.kinney@gmail.com">jim.kinney@gmail.com</a>>> wrote:<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> Jerald, you're missing the entire point: Upgrade _your_ machine<br>
>>>> and give the old one to the young-uns. Put squid-guard on it<br>
>>>> and provide a pile of bookmarks they are interested in. :-)<br>
>>>> House Rule: Dad ALWAYS has the best hardware unless someone<br>
>>>> else is paying for it. On Sat, Jul 13, 2013 at 10:00 PM, Neal<br>
>>>> Rhodes <<a href="mailto:neal@mnopltd.com">neal@mnopltd.com</a> <mailto:<a href="mailto:neal@mnopltd.com">neal@mnopltd.com</a>>> wrote: I<br>
>>>> would think you could look for off-lease "no-os" refurb units<br>
>>>> on TigerDirect for maybe $100.<br>
>>>><br>
>>>> On Sat, 2013-07-13 at 21:22 -0400, Jerald Sheets wrote: Hi<br>
>>>> all. I've come to the point where my next generation o little<br>
>>>> ones will be going online, and I'm going to build me a content<br>
>>>> filtering firewall. (Ipcop) Thing is, I don't have any old<br>
>>>> hardware and need to get something, but anyth ing I would buy<br>
>>>> in a store would be overkill. I'm looking for something P3 or<br>
>>>> later, mid tower with one drive bay is fine and 4-8G of memory.<br>
>>>> Anyone have anything like that you'd like to unload? Jerald<br>
>>>> Sheets Sent from my iPhone5<br>
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