<div dir="ltr"><div><div>Sean,<br><br></div>Haven't read either for a long time so I didn't even realize the mistake. :)<br><br></div>What I don't have an answer for it the balance between justice and privacy. While Ben Franklin's old quote is a great idea, there are too many bad people in the world who didn't read it. <br>
<br>Leam<br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 21, 2013 at 1:50 PM, Sean Kilpatrick <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:kilpatms@gmail.com" target="_blank">kilpatms@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">For further commentary please reread "1984" by George Orwell.</p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">In a fit of unbelievable memory loss, I remembered Winston Smith in the wrong dystopian universe.</p>
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<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">On Wednesday, August 21, 2013 12:48:09 pm Sean Kilpatrick wrote:</p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">> I must disagree.</p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">> </p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">> Facebook: Yes. That clearly is a public venue.</p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">> </p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">> Email: NO! The government has no more right to read my email without</p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">> a specific warrant than it does to read my snail mail.</p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">> </p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">> Let me quote the Fourth Amendment:</p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">> </p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">> "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers,</p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">> and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be</p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">> violated, and no warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause,</p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">> supported by oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the</p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">> place to be searched, and the persons or things to be siezed."</p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">> </p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">> Your smart phone is the same as my briefcase. In the 21st century,</p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">> electronic records are most assuredly "papers and effects." This</p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">> paragraph of the U.S. Constitution requires that the government at any</p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">> level must get a warrant before searching my electronic</p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">> communications.</p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">> </p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">> How does the government get evidence on suspected criminals: Easy! Its</p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">> agents get a warrant, which must be specific as to the kinds of things</p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">> being searched for. The constitution could not be clearer: no warrant</p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">> = no search nor seizure.</p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">> </p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">> For further commentary on this issue (continuous surveilence by the</p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">> government on the entire population), please reread Huxley's "Brave New</p>
<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">> World."</p>
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<p style="margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px;margin-left:0px;margin-right:0px;text-indent:0px">> Sean</p>
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