<div dir="ltr"><div>The gui tools are for novices. Always have been and will be. Not trying to sound as harsh as it seems but most people in this work know the real power is in the keyboard not the mouse. The gui acts like training wheels. Learning the command stuff means automation and replication and intense customization. It also means ownership. Many competent people continue to use a gui because of the ownership issue. Ownership of the process also means responsibility for the outcome. <br>
<br></div>Every decent Linux user, not the casual desktop n00b but the people who use Linux daily and earn an income from their use, should learn the basics of the underlying configuration for things like iptables, networking, user administration, service start and stop, and probably a few others.<br>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Aug 13, 2013 at 7:19 AM, JD <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jdp@algoloma.com" target="_blank">jdp@algoloma.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div class="im">On 08/12/2013 09:16 PM, Alex Carver wrote:<br>
> Either way, OpenWRT has long had a UI similar to that for the same purpose. It<br>
> wasn't necessary to use iptables even under older versions of OpenWRT.<br>
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</div>For my locations, the UI is **not** and option. There is just too many options<br>
and settings to be entered and type, tab, type, tab, type, tab for 150 entries<br>
doesn't cut it. If that is just the port forwarding and redirection, dno't<br>
forget about DNS entries, specific IP range blocking, and if you have mutliple<br>
public IPs, it can become impossible to use the GUI.<br>
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