<div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-family:arial,helvetica,sans-serif;font-size:small">Or tell the developers to stop resetting your choices....<br><br></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br clear="all">
<div>Pete Hardie<br>--------<br>Better Living Through Bitmaps</div>
<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 9:59 PM, Sparr <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:sparr0@gmail.com" target="_blank">sparr0@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr">If you find yourself changing these options more than 3 times, you should be automating the process by just importing an entire configuration or profile.</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">
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On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 9:54 PM, Ron Frazier (ALE) <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:atllinuxenthinfo@techstarship.com" target="_blank">atllinuxenthinfo@techstarship.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Yes, I know that's an option. Some of the things I mentioned can be
fixed that way. Some others cannot. The main problem is that the UI
controls were there and they were easy to use. Now they're gone and it
takes me substantially longer to configure the same setup as before.<br>
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Sincerely,<br>
<br>
Ron<div><br>
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On 8/7/2013 9:31 PM, Sparr wrote:
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<div dir="ltr">Firefox has always had thousands of configuration
options that aren't in the preferences panel. If you want to be a power
user, use <a>about:config</a></div>
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Aug 7, 2013 at 9:11 PM, Ron Frazier
(ALE) <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:atllinuxenthinfo@techstarship.com" target="_blank">atllinuxenthinfo@techstarship.com</a>></span>
wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);margin:0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex;padding-left:1ex">Hi
all,<br>
<br>
Just thought I'd pass this along. The Firefox dev team has deleted
several UI options in Firefox 23 that they think are unimportant but
that I and a number of people commenting on blogs etc. think are
important. This article lists most of them:<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.askvg.com/mozilla-to-remove-several-unnecessary-options-from-firefox-preferences-window" target="_blank">http://www.askvg.com/mozilla-to-remove-several-unnecessary-options-from-firefox-preferences-window</a><br>
<br>
Some of them impact the way I have my Firefox's set up and some of them
change user defaults even after the user had intentionally modified
them. If you care about any of these, you can temporarily turn off
auto updates on ff 22 (if you even still have ff 22) and look at the
menus to see where things have changed. I spent several hours last
night researching how to undo what the dev team has done. I've found
alternate ways of setting or workarounds for almost all. I'm going to
have to spend more hours reconfiguring all my ff installations, pc's,
logins, vm's, after they upgrade to 23. This will take a large and
annoying amount of time. When I'm done, I should still have the system
configured the way I want but will still be able to do auto updates.
As has been stated here before by others, you don't want to leave auto
updates off if you can avoid it. I hope to post detailed instructions
on how to override the changes in a separate post. Posting the details
now would!<br>
take a good bit of time.<br>
<br>
Here's what they've changed:<br>
<br>
A) Tabs on top checkbox is gone - I hate this feature. I want the menu
on top, then the address bar / nav bar, then the tabs. Some may like
it, but the point is, you need to be able to change it. This is
fixable.<br>
<br>
B) Load images automatically checkbox / exception list is gone - I and
many people use this periodically when they don't want to load images,
for speed or bandwidth considerations or data caps, etc. Fixable.<br>
<br>
C) Enable javascript checkbox / advanced javascript configuration is
gone. This is something that's security related and something I set on
every installation I do for myself. What really burns me is that
they've not only deleted the controls, but have altered the default
settings I already had. I keep javacript turned on here and let
noscript control it on a site by site basis. However, the advanced
screen would let you disallow scripts moving or resizing windows,
raising or lowering windows, or changing or replacing context menus. I
had all these features turned off and that's the way I wanted them.
Now, the dev team has changed the defaults that I HAD ALREADY SET to
be the opposite in two of the three cases. As a consequence, I have to
go to every pc, vm, and login I have and use a very kludgy method that
takes 5X longer to configure, and put the systems back the way I had
it. But, it's fixable.<br>
<br>
D) The dialog to override automatic cache management is supposedly
gone, but I think it may still be there, at least for the moment. I
don't know if that's fixable if they remove it. I've never used it.<br>
<br>
While I'm here (in the options / preferences, advanced, network menu)
you should know that html 5 websites can potentially store many MB of
data for offline use on your system. There are a couple of dialogs in
this menu to control and monitor that, as well as a checkbox to "Tell
me when a website wants to store data for offline use". I'd leave that
checked.<br>
<br>
E) Options to turn off or on SSL3 or TLS1 are gone. The entire
certificate management interface is supposed to be gone, but I think
it's still there. I've never used the first options. I occasionally
have to tinker with security certificate exceptions. I don't know if
the SSL TLS things are fixable or if they need to be.<br>
<br>
F) The option to turn off the nav toolbar is gone supposedly, but it
still looks like it's in the view menu. I don't know if that's fixable
if they remove it. Many people like to eliminate tabs and the nav bar
and just have a small window with information displaying in it, like
weather.<br>
<br>
G) The always show the tab bar option is gone. Conversely, is the easy
option to hide it. Logic for why people want this is the same as for
the nav bar. This is fixable.<br>
<br>
That's it for now. I hope to be posting detailed instructions to
implement the fixes, but that email will take me a while to type and I
have to find time for it. If anyone has specific questions, feel free
to ask.<br>
<br>
HTH<br>
<br>
Sincerely,<br>
<br>
Ron<br>
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