<div dir="ltr">> Why do people insist on BLACK shingles in the hot states?<br><br><div class="gmail_extra">HOA's and municipal ordinances are a primary reason why. Until elected officials and private organizations realize the stupidity in aesthetic related codes, we'll continue seeing dark roofs. <br>
<br><br></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 6:16 PM, Jim Kinney <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jim.kinney@gmail.com" target="_blank">jim.kinney@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div>must replace my SEER 0.001 with something MUCH better (looking at a SEER 16 unit). Plus add a crapload of insulation in attic and glob on the ultra-bright white roof paint. My June power bill was $380.<br>
<br></div>Why do people insist on BLACK shingles in the hot states? Aesthetics be damned! AC bills prevent me from have other fun :-( The only black things I want my roof are solar panels for power and hot water.<br></div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 6:02 PM, James Sumners <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:james.sumners@gmail.com" target="_blank">james.sumners@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Do yourself a favor and learn to distinguish bulbs by their lumen output, not their incandescent wattage equivalence. That's a practice that should never have been implemented. It's not really a direct equivalence, and it just ends up making folks say the wrong thing (e.g. saying 40w when they really have a 7w).<div>
<br></div><div>Also, make sure the Crees are rated for enclosed installation before putting them in your outdoor fixtures. Most brands are not. I use the ULTRA bulbs by Sylvania and the off-brand EcoSmart bulbs. Neither, of those that I have bought, have been rated thus.</div>
<div><br></div><div>My favorite LED bulbs so far are the Phillips (damn expensive, but coming down; still worth it, though) and the ULTRAs. Just about every bulb in my house is a LED. My power bill, with a SEER 10 A/C unit running, for May was $99 after taxes and fees. They make a huge difference. <div>
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<br>On Tuesday, July 23, 2013, Ron Frazier (ALE) wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">Hi all,<br>
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Just thought I'd throw this out there since you guys like geeky stuff. I just bought my 1st & 2nd "lighting-class" LED bulbs. I have a couple of fixtures that are hard to get to and work with to replace bulbs on my porch. For some time, those bulbs have been out and we've been using a free standing lamp out there. Today, I decided to take the leap and try LED. I've only had the product open for a little while and have been testing it in a table lamp, but my initial reaction is that I'm VERY impressed. At $ 13 / bulb, I won't be replacing all my CFL's yet, but maybe one at a time when they burn out. The porch lights have to wait until I deal with some uninvited wasps that are there.<br>
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This is the Cree warm white 2700 K color temperature 60 W bulb replacement from Home Depot. The appearance and shape is like a standard incandescent bulb and this particular one puts out a pretty omnidirectional light. Right on the top of the bulb is a small area of dimness at the top of the "LED Filament Tower", but otherwise, I wouldn't know it's not a standard bulb by looking at its light.<br>
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This bulb has some really cool features:<br>
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* It uses just 9.5 W of power to provide the equivalent of 60 W of incandescent light.<br>
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* It's warranted for 10 years at 6 hrs / day (with proof of purchase). This works out to 25,000 hrs. This is 20X the life of an incandescent and 2X the life of a GOOD CFL.<br>
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* You can touch the bulb, even hold it, while running; and your hand will get warm but not burned. However, DON'T touch the heat sink directly. This is about hot enough to burn you. Another Home Depot shopper gave me that tip.<br>
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* It has a rubber safety coating on the class bulb with a kind of tacky feeling, like a rubber jar opener or something. Should be less likely to break and less dangerous if it does. The instructions don't recommend running it with a broken glass casing.<br>
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* There is no mercury or lead in it.<br>
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* And, it is DIMMABLE with a STANDARD dimmer. This is very cool. I had uninstalled 3 dimmers in my house when I went to using CFL's. Maybe, eventually, I'll be able to put them back. This also means you could put it on a photocell, or motion detector.<br>
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So, even though I've only had the product a few hours, at this point, I highly recommend it. Hopefully, the prices will keep coming down.<br>
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Sincerely,<br>
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Ron<br>
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</blockquote></div></div></div><span><font color="#888888"><br><br>-- <br>James Sumners<br><a href="http://james.roomfullofmirrors.com/" target="_blank">http://james.roomfullofmirrors.com/</a><br><br>"All governments suffer a recurring problem: Power attracts pathological personalities. It is not that power corrupts but that it is magnetic to the corruptible. Such people have a tendency to become drunk on violence, a condition to which they are quickly addicted."<br>
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