<p dir="ltr">I never consider payback time. I always get the best efficiency I can afford. My kids and potential grandkids get the benefits of my resource frugality.<br>
Money gets printed daily. Thus it's an infinitely renewable resource. My time is in short supply so economic theory says my work should have to pay more for my work. </p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Jul 23, 2013 7:35 PM, "Ron Frazier (ALE)" <<a href="mailto:atllinuxenthinfo@techstarship.com">atllinuxenthinfo@techstarship.com</a>> wrote:<br type="attribution"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
Hi Jim,<br>
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You might want to consider a powered thermostatically controlled vent fan for the attic. It will keep your attic cooler. It's fairly simple and cheap, but I don't know what the payback is. If you have work done on your roof, you could add a ridge vent. Those also help a bit. Maybe a good bit. A radiant barrier can be a good option but that costs some $$$ to get. Payback is longer.<br>
<br>
You could look up the heating degree days and cooling degree days for this area. GA has both harsh winters (at times) and harsh summers. There is hardly ever a time when my heat pump is neither heating nor cooling. Black shingles help some with winter heating, but I would imagine they do more harm than good. For better or worse, it would probably be harder to sell a house with a really light roof.<br>
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PS, get cellulose insulation if you can. You'd have to check into the pros and cons. A relative recently told me that, if your house is hit by a tornado, it blasts little bits of fiberglass insulation everywhere and into everything, so even if your clothes, bed, carpet, and sofa are intact, you can't use them again because of the fiberglass.<br>
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PPS, you didn't trim this message. 8-) I chopped it for you.<br>
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Sincerely,<br>
<br>
Ron<br>
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Jim Kinney <<a href="mailto:jim.kinney@gmail.com">jim.kinney@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
<br>
>must replace my SEER 0.001 with something MUCH better (looking at a<br>
>SEER 16<br>
>unit). Plus add a crapload of insulation in attic and glob on the<br>
>ultra-bright white roof paint. My June power bill was $380.<br>
><br>
>Why do people insist on BLACK shingles in the hot states? Aesthetics be<br>
>damned! AC bills prevent me from have other fun :-( The only black<br>
>things<br>
>I want my roof are solar panels for power and hot water.<br>
><br>
><br>
>On Tue, Jul 23, 2013 at 6:02 PM, James Sumners<br>
><<a href="mailto:james.sumners@gmail.com">james.sumners@gmail.com</a>>wrote:<br>
><br>
>> Do yourself a favor and learn to distinguish bulbs by their lumen<br>
>output,<br>
>> not their incandescent wattage equivalence. That's a practice that<br>
>should<br>
>> never have been implemented. It's not really a direct equivalence,<br>
>and it<br>
>> just ends up making folks say the wrong thing (e.g. saying 40w when<br>
>they<br>
>> really have a 7w).<br>
>><br>
>> Also, make sure the Crees are rated for enclosed installation before<br>
>> putting them in your outdoor fixtures. Most brands are not. I use the<br>
>ULTRA<br>
>> bulbs by Sylvania and the off-brand EcoSmart bulbs. Neither, of those<br>
>that<br>
>> I have bought, have been rated thus.<br>
>><br>
>> My favorite LED bulbs so far are the Phillips (damn expensive, but<br>
>coming<br>
>> down; still worth it, though) and the ULTRAs. Just about every bulb<br>
>in my<br>
>> house is a LED. My power bill, with a SEER 10 A/C unit running, for<br>
>May was<br>
>> $99 after taxes and fees. They make a huge difference.<br>
>><br>
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