<div dir="ltr">On Mon, Jul 22, 2013 at 4:43 PM, Michael B. Trausch <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:mbt@naunetcorp.com" target="_blank">mbt@naunetcorp.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><div class="gmail_extra"><div class="gmail_quote">
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<div>On 07/22/2013 03:54 PM, Sparr wrote:<br>
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<div>No, I won't. As pointed out elsewhere in this thread,
observing cross traffic stopping does NOT provide effective
evidence that I am at a four-way flashing-red, *especially* in
Atlanta which is the weirdest stop-for-flashing-yellow-lights
city I've encountered.</div>
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<div>If I am at a flashing red light and both directions of cross
traffic have stopped, is it "clear" for me to proceed? If I
proceed in that situation, and one of the people who was stopped
at a flashing yellow also proceeds, and we collide, who is at
fault?</div>
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</div>In either event, the first violator of the protocol is the one who
is cited, sometimes with others if there is a complex chain
resulting. If people are stopping at a blinking yellow, then they
have violated the protocol. The result of the protocol violation is
going to be a collision—it could be a rear-end (possibly chain)
collision, or a collision indirectly caused by the violator by
falsely giving everyone else the impression that it's a four-way
stop and then they don't check for themselves</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Unfortunately, this is not how the situation is enforced, and thus not how people are practically required to handle it. If I stop at a flashing red and see you stop, without knowing your signal, and I proceed, then you proceed through your flashing yellow, and we collide, I will be held at fault for failure to yield. There is no course of action that I can take to satisfy the law and its implementation.</div>
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