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<div class="moz-cite-prefix">On 07/22/2013 04:54 PM, Sparr wrote:<br>
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<div bgcolor="#FFFFFF" text="#000000">In either event, the first
violator of the protocol is the one who is cited, sometimes
with others if there is a complex chain resulting. If people
are stopping at a blinking yellow, then they have violated the
protocol. The result of the protocol violation is going to be
a collision—it could be a rear-end (possibly chain) collision,
or a collision indirectly caused by the violator by falsely
giving everyone else the impression that it's a four-way stop
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<div>Unfortunately, this is not how the situation is enforced, and
thus not how people are practically required to handle it. If I
stop at a flashing red and see you stop, without knowing your
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If you do not know my signal, then you did not take the 2-3 seconds
at your blinking red to assess the situation. This would be your
first error in handling the situation...<br>
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<div> and I proceed, then you proceed through your flashing
yellow, and we collide, I will be held at fault for failure to
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If you started your motion first, and I was already stopped, then I
have (legally) yielded right-of-way (and honestly, in that
situation, I would have to be broken down to do so—I only yield when
the law mandates I do so). If you then begin movement, while I am
stopped, and then I commence movement, then I have the citation, not
yourself.<br>
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However, if I am moving at all, and you proceed through the
intersection whilst I am moving, I clearly have not yielded
right-of-way, and being at a stop sign, you did not have
right-of-way, ergo, you're in the wrong.<br>
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I fail to see how this is complex in the slightest.<br>
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<div> There is no course of action that I can take to satisfy the
law and its implementation.</div>
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Sure there is: assess the situation when you arrive at your stop
sign (flashing red)! You have a stop sign. It is as simple as
that. You take a couple of seconds, and you discover (a) the state
of the intersection, (b) the state of the lights, and (c) the state
of the other vehicles around. If you don't do all three before
proceeding through the intersection, well—hey, your car, your life!<br>
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I won't be contributing to this thread any longer. The law in this
area is as old as traffic lights, and is pretty clear-cut and
unambiguous to me. Reasonable, too, as three seconds and the due
diligence required to pass through an intersection doesn't require
all that much—just the senses which are required for driving safely
in the first place.<br>
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— Mike<br>
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