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<body><div>A couple of hobbies for the spooks:</div><div><br></div><div>Making fission bombs in the garage</div><div>Making nerve gases and vesicants (blistering agents/mustard gas) in the kitchen</div><div><br></div><div>In reality</div><div>Photography</div><div>Classical Music</div><div>History</div><div><br></div><div>On Wed, 10 Jul 2013 18:53:02 -0400, Doug Hall <doughalldev@gmail.com> wrote:<br></div><br><blockquote style="margin: 0 0 0.80ex; border-left: #0000FF 2px solid; padding-left: 1ex"><div dir="ltr">Hmm. The Seven "Dirty" Words You Cannot Say on the Internet. Sounds like a George Carlin skit, God rest his soul. If they exist, I'm pretty sure I said a few of them. So far, I haven't noticed being followed by men in dark suits. :-)</div>
<div class="gmail_extra"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Wed, Jul 10, 2013 at 7:20 AM, Edward Holcroft <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:eholcroft@mkainc.com" target="_blank">eholcroft@mkainc.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Well if "they're" watching" let's give 'em something to watch. Remember Jam Echelon day? <a href="http://www.thing.net/~rdom/ecd/jam.html" target="_blank">http://www.thing.net/~rdom/ecd/jam.html</a></div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">It seems like the great unwashed is suddenly getting their panties in a wad over stuff that we've been telling them has been going on for a very, very long time. ...</div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">I'm not sure if the attempt at jamming Echelon ever actually worked, but I'm more than happy to add a list of trigger words to my e-mail signature ... except, the link to the list of trigger words seems to have been removed ... hmmmm .... </div>
<div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">Maybe it's time to resurrect it.</div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small"><br></div><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small">
ed</div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><div><div class="h5"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Jul 9, 2013 at 12:32 PM, Ron Frazier (ALE) <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:atllinuxenthinfo@techstarship.com" target="_blank">atllinuxenthinfo@techstarship.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">Yes, but, as far as I know, not being in the spook community, they're not just vacuuming up every byte from every public server on the planet. That would be prohibitively expensive and inefficient even for the government. As I understand it, they've placed taps at key intersections of the data flow of the internet, like gmail, verizon, at&t, comcast, etc. That way, they get 90% of the info they're interested in for 1/100 of the trouble and money.<br>
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So, since this message went through gmail, it probably already resides on an NSA hard drive. And, with all those juicy words, it may have been "flagged" for further attention. To each his own, but, I'm not sure poking the sleeping dragon is the best idea. They really do have a critical mission to search for terrorists, with due process. I appreciate that they're doing that. But, not only that, I remember receiving an official letter from the FCC once that I wasn't expecting. It was actually just a routine notice regarding my ham radio license. But, just getting it was unnerving. In general, the less communications I get from the govt., the better.<br>
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Sincerely,<br>
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Ron<br>
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Richard Bronosky <<a href="mailto:richard@bronosky.com" target="_blank">richard@bronosky.com</a>> wrote:<br>
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>This email list is archived on the ale site. No need for conspiracy<br>
>theories. The data is public.<br>
>On Jul 9, 2013 10:41 AM, "Ron Frazier (ALE)" <<br>
><a href="mailto:atllinuxenthinfo@techstarship.com" target="_blank">atllinuxenthinfo@techstarship.com</a>> wrote:<br>
><br>
</div>>> **<br>
<div><div>>> Remember the scene in the movie "The Core". Two government agents<br>
>come<br>
>> into a bar to escort the geologist to Washington after he discovers<br>
>the<br>
>> world is going to end. He says "What if I say no?" They say "Well,<br>
>we<br>
>> have no sense of humor ... AND we're armed."<br>
>><br>
>> You can BET they have a tap on the gmail data stream, and their bot<br>
>has<br>
>> probably cataloged this message thread. Actually, I heard something<br>
>on the<br>
>> Tech News Today podcast about Google planning to sell your email<br>
>contacts<br>
>> anyway, so who needs to tap it?<br>
>><br>
>> Ron<br>
>><br>
>><br>
>> On 7/9/2013 8:18 AM, Richard Bronosky wrote:<br>
>><br>
>> Wow, you got me! I started to feel scared just having this email on<br>
>my<br>
>> phone.<br>
>> On Jul 8, 2013 11:39 PM, "Doug Hall" <<a href="mailto:doughalldev@gmail.com" target="_blank">doughalldev@gmail.com</a>> wrote:<br>
>><br>
>>> Hobbies?<br>
>>><br>
>>> Singing in the church choir<br>
>>> Gardening (Well, that's sort of a forced hobby, recently. My front<br>
>yard<br>
>>> is eroding due to a lack of grass.)<br>
>>> Spouting my conservative agenda on Facebook<br>
>>> High explosives<br>
>>> Biotoxins. (I'm thinking of combining these two.)<br>
>>> Sending anthrax to deserving members of Congress.<br>
>>> Planting pipe bombs in Mosques.<br>
>>> Pranking the Government into thinking I'm a terrorist.<br>
>>><br>
>>> Gotcha! ;-) Incidentally, if the government actually does read this<br>
>and<br>
>>> does NOT have a sense of humor, please be a character witness in my<br>
>trial!<br>
>>><br>
>>> Doug<br>
>>><br>
>>><br>
>> --<br>
>><br>
>> (PS - If you email me and don't get a quick response, you might want<br>
>to<br>
>> call on the phone. I get about 300 emails per day from alternate<br>
>energy<br>
>> mailing lists and such. I don't always see new email messages very<br>
>quickly.)<br>
>><br>
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