<div dir="ltr">To second what John has said, I'd say the same thing. PHP was the first thing I learned (beyond HTML and CSS) and other than some JavaSript / AJAX - still really the only thing I know 8 years later because I certainly haven't lacked employment since getting good at it. But I taught it all to myself using Google, examples from other projects, and specific questions. I too just use a Text Editor (TextWrangler - great FTP integration). <div>
<br></div><div>The nice thing is that he has a good understanding of programming so what I would suggest him to do is think of how he would do it in ASP and then Google the question in PHP. He'll catch on real, real quick. So for example, he might know how to do a WHILE loop, or a MsSQL select statement in ASP and I would just Google "while loop in php" or "MySQL select in PHP" and he'll learn a lot better that way. PHP.net is a great resource and really well documented. In addition StackOverflow is a great place for answers. But I never go to either of them directly, just via Google.</div>
<div><br></div><div style>I don't know if ASP is object-oriented or procedural - but no matter what his background he should have a good foundation to transfer it over with the right questions and Google.</div></div><div class="gmail_extra">
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Mar 8, 2013 at 9:06 AM, John Heim <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:john@johnheim.net" target="_blank">john@johnheim.net</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
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Well, at the risk of committing the sin of not answering the question, if it was my friend, I'd tell him to just google it. That's all I did when I switched from ASP to php and I'm blind. I would think someone with vision would find it even easier to learn by studying examples on-line. I don't think finding a book is going to make it any easier, just more tedious.<br>
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I don't have any advice wrt integrated development environment. I only wish I did. I do all my coding in TexpPad, a plain old text editor. But I haven't found an IDE that works well with a screen reader. If I had a lot of money I'd just keep buying them until I found one that works. About 5 years ago, I spent about $100 on 3 different ones and couldn't figure any of them out.<div class="im">
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On 3/8/2013 7:19 AM, Lightner, Jeff wrote:<br>
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I have a friend that does web design using asp that wants to start going<br>
the open source route.<br>
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He specifically asked me about learning php and I have loaned him an<br>
O’Reilly book that talks about php, MySQL and one other thing as well as<br>
my Apache book. I had those but really don’t do web design myself.<br>
<br>
Are there any good recommendations for what to look at to get up to<br>
speed on php if one is used to asp?<br>
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Specifically he’d asked me if there is a design environment like that<br>
for asp so he doesn’t have to do everything in text editors. Since I’m<br>
not familiar with asp I’m not sure what environment he is speaking of<br>
but thought someone on this list might.<br>
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I’m not asking for someone to Google for this – I’m asking people that<br>
know both ways of doing things what resources they’d recommend.<br>
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